Battlepass shouldn't expire

[Lecruidant]

Might be somewhat of a hot take, but battlepass shouldn't expire until the next event starts. Or string a BP up to start when the current ends. I started playing about 3 weeks ago. But finding out nothing else starts after is not only a let down, it kind of leaves me wondering about the player count post pass/event. There's nothing to really draw people in then or keep them playing it seems. Now that I know I won't max it and that nothing is on the horizon until they announce it, I find myself just kind of wanting to go play something else. Anybody else feel this way or think they should do more to retain players/bring more players in or back?

Edit: 7k online right now globally when the last time I looked a few days ago it was around 23k. That's kind of wild and proves my point a bit more

[RNG Enjoyer]

Dude the base game is great and that's why people play it.

[MrHustler]

Originally posted by Lecruidant:

Might be somewhat of a hot take, but battlepass shouldn't expire until the next event starts. Or string a BP up to start when the current ends. I started playing about 3 weeks ago. I'm 5 levels short of maxing it currently. But finding out nothing else starts after is not only a let down, it kind of leaves me wondering about the player count post pass/event. There's nothing to really draw people in then or keep them playing it seems. Now that I know I won't max it and that nothing is on the horizon until they announce it, I find myself just kind of wanting to go play something else. Anybody else feel this way or think they should do more to retain players/bring more players in or back?

Edit: 7k online right now globally when the last time I looked a few days ago it was around 23k. That's kind of wild and proves my point a bit more

you had 3 month to max the battlepass it only took me 3 weeks to max it!

[MrHustler]

Originally posted by Lecruidant:

Might be somewhat of a hot take, but battlepass shouldn't expire until the next event starts. Or string a BP up to start when the current ends. I started playing about 3 weeks ago. I'm 5 levels short of maxing it currently. But finding out nothing else starts after is not only a let down, it kind of leaves me wondering about the player count post pass/event. There's nothing to really draw people in then or keep them playing it seems. Now that I know I won't max it and that nothing is on the horizon until they announce it, I find myself just kind of wanting to go play something else. Anybody else feel this way or think they should do more to retain players/bring more players in or back?

Edit: 7k online right now globally when the last time I looked a few days ago it was around 23k. That's kind of wild and proves my point a bit more

the player count is low because people got work and school bra not everyone can play videos 24/7!

[Lecruidant]

Originally posted by LordHater:

Dude the base game is great and that's why people play it.

Base game is great, yes. But shouldn't you want a larger player pool and to have something for people to always be engaged with to have those people there to play and queue against? Last week at this time there was about 10k players at this time. We're currently about to go under 6k. Events or BP's with things to work for keep player counts up and queue's faster

[MrHustler]

Originally posted by Lecruidant:

Originally posted by LordHater:

Dude the base game is great and that's why people play it.

Base game is great, yes. But shouldn't you want a larger player pool and to have something for people to always be engaged with to have those people there to play and queue against? Last week at this time there was about 10k players at this time. We're currently about to go under 6k. Events or BP's with things to work for keep player counts up and queue's faster

no one is on right now because of server maintenance chill bra!

[Lecruidant]

Originally posted by MrHustler:

Originally posted by Lecruidant:

Might be somewhat of a hot take, but battlepass shouldn't expire until the next event starts. Or string a BP up to start when the current ends. I started playing about 3 weeks ago. I'm 5 levels short of maxing it currently. But finding out nothing else starts after is not only a let down, it kind of leaves me wondering about the player count post pass/event. There's nothing to really draw people in then or keep them playing it seems. Now that I know I won't max it and that nothing is on the horizon until they announce it, I find myself just kind of wanting to go play something else. Anybody else feel this way or think they should do more to retain players/bring more players in or back?

Edit: 7k online right now globally when the last time I looked a few days ago it was around 23k. That's kind of wild and proves my point a bit more

the player count is low because people got work and school bra not everyone can play videos 24/7!

Steam monitors global use. The numbers and statistics are for overall time played around the clock in all regions. According to your comment though. A loss of 4k players at this time of night since a week ago is normal for this game? Or any game?

Also. "Bra" is what women use. Stop trying to live in the early 2000's lol

[MrHustler]

Originally posted by Lecruidant:

Originally posted by MrHustler:

the player count is low because people got work and school bra not everyone can play videos 24/7!

Steam monitors global use. The numbers and statistics are for overall time played around the clock in all regions. According to your comment though. A loss of 4k players at this time of night since a week ago is normal for this game? Or any game?

yeah if they're playing the game only for the battle pass and not the game itself tons of people only play games cuz they have a gambling addiction!

[Lecruidant]

Originally posted by MrHustler:

Originally posted by Lecruidant:

Steam monitors global use. The numbers and statistics are for overall time played around the clock in all regions. According to your comment though. A loss of 4k players at this time of night since a week ago is normal for this game? Or any game?

yeah if they're playing the game only for the battle pass and not the game itself tons of people only play games cuz they have a gambling addiction!

What are you going on about. BP's aren't gambling. It's a reward system for playing the game and keeping you invested in it. There's a difference in a BP and loot boxes/gacha system. I'm beginning to think you don't know what you're talking about in regards to player retention/engagement

[MrHustler]

Originally posted by Lecruidant:

Originally posted by MrHustler:

the player count is low because people got work and school bra not everyone can play videos 24/7!

Steam monitors global use. The numbers and statistics are for overall time played around the clock in all regions. According to your comment though. A loss of 4k players at this time of night since a week ago is normal for this game? Or any game?

Also. "Bra" is what women use. Stop trying to live in the early 2000's lol

never hear a women ever use bra only ever hear guys say it lul I guess it's based off of where we live!

[MrHustler]

Originally posted by Lecruidant:

Originally posted by MrHustler:

yeah if they're playing the game only for the battle pass and not the game itself tons of people only play games cuz they have a gambling addiction!

What are you going on about. BP's aren't gambling. It's a reward system for playing the game and keeping you invested in it. There's a difference in a BP and loot boxes/gacha system. I'm beginning to think you don't know what you're talking about in regards to player retention/engagement

trust me it's definitely gambling I have multiple friends that only play Pacific games because of the battle pass and after they get all of the stuff they stop play the game until the next battlepass and they all say it's gambling! to me I have no gambling addiction I care less if I get the battle pass or not!

[Lecruidant]

Originally posted by MrHustler:

Originally posted by Lecruidant:

What are you going on about. BP's aren't gambling. It's a reward system for playing the game and keeping you invested in it. There's a difference in a BP and loot boxes/gacha system. I'm beginning to think you don't know what you're talking about in regards to player retention/engagement

trust me it's definitely gambling I have multiple friends that only play Pacific games because of the battle pass and after they get all of the stuff they stop play the game until the next battlepass and they all say it's gambling! to me I have no gambling addiction I care less if I get the battle pass or not!

There's no "trusting" you in this matter. It's factual that a BP is not, in any way shape or form, gambling. You aren't rolling the dice on anything. You aren't getting a random item given to you like a loot box. If they are telling you it's gambling, they themselves are also wrong lol

Gambling is Loot Boxes. It's a Gacha game. It's anything with a CHANCE percent at getting what you want out of the system.

All a BP does is retain a player base throughout a given amount of time. Once that goes away, player numbers go back down because there aren't people working towards a reward. People working towards a reward means players in the queue playing the game. The people who have it done are playing to take out said players, therefore retaining their engagement against the others. Will those people stick around after the others leave? Most likely, yes. But from what i've read in these discussions and from comments even on their stream today, people want retention and a higher player count.

[MrHustler]

Originally posted by Lecruidant:

Originally posted by MrHustler:

trust me it's definitely gambling I have multiple friends that only play Pacific games because of the battle pass and after they get all of the stuff they stop play the game until the next battlepass and they all say it's gambling! to me I have no gambling addiction I care less if I get the battle pass or not!

There's no "trusting" you in this matter. It's factual that a BP is not, in any way shape or form, gambling. You aren't rolling the dice on anything. You aren't getting a random item given to you like a loot box. If they are telling you it's gambling, they themselves are also wrong lol

Gambling is Loot Boxes. It's a Gacha game. It's anything with a CHANCE percent at getting what you want out of the system.

All a BP does is retain a player base throughout a given amount of time. Once that goes away, player numbers go back down because there aren't people working towards a reward. People working towards a reward means players in the queue playing the game. The people who have it done are playing to take out said players, therefore retaining their engagement against the others. Will those people stick around after the others leave? Most likely, yes. But from what i've read in these discussions and from comments even on their stream today, people want retention and a higher player count.

hey man don't tell me tell them! to me nothing is gambling unless you're losing money and making money!

[JHarlequin]

To make the rewards matter, the pass has to end. To keep the event and it's special features effective, then there has to be a limited time.

Many features of the event aren't really fitting with the long term goals of the game. They are meant to be here only for a limited time. And some things like the thundershowers are meant to stay, but they were overexposed for the event and now need to go back to a normal level so that the rest of the game continues alongside the new feature.

Simply put, this isn't just stringing players into playing the game constantly. It did boost players during the event, but it was more about introducing a few features and delivering some story.

The way that Hunt runs fits more with having downtime between events so that there isn't a constant flood of must play now moments. We are supposed to chose when to play. We aren't supposed to be on the job trying to get every unlock during every moment of playtime.

[Lecruidant]

Originally posted by JHarlequin:

To make the rewards matter, the pass has to end. To keep the event and it's special features effective, then there has to be a limited time.

Many features of the event aren't really fitting with the long term goals of the game. They are meant to be here only for a limited time. And some things like the thundershowers are meant to stay, but they were overexposed for the event and now need to go back to a normal level so that the rest of the game continues alongside the new feature.

Simply put, this isn't just stringing players into playing the game constantly. It did boost players during the event, but it was more about introducing a few features and delivering some story.

The way that Hunt runs fits more with having downtime between events so that there isn't a constant flood of must play now moments. We are supposed to chose when to play. We aren't supposed to be on the job trying to get every unlock during every moment of playtime.

In saying that, it is THERE job to make revenue. Players not playing? Less revenue being made. More downtime while queue'd, leaving to more people just going to play something that has faster queue times. Etc. Yes. The EVENT had to end. But the BP and things associated could very well continue until a new pass is there. Making something to work for instead of just playing for the hell of it. I have far more games I can put time into. DO I wanna play Hunt? Yeah sure. But I also have more things coming out that have rewards that draw my attention. And that goes for quite a bit of gamers. All Hunt gamers? Nah, of course not. But you have to hit the market how it is. I've seen plenty of posts talking about player counts and how low they are and how it's "Dying" etc.

EDIT: I mean, they could be wrong and just complaining at the end of the day. But even at 7k-9k players worldwide I still have like 5 minutes of searching sometimes for a match in 3's.