OPINION ABOUT DRILLING RIFFLE

[PEPEJULIANOZIMA]

gota say this gun is HELA FUN if you have so much hunt dollar that sitting in inventory i realy recomend you try drilling BUT if you new player i dont think that this gun is a good option for you since its high risk high reward kinda thing. for now i think drilling should sit at 325$ and extra 80$ for the dum dum ammo, yes the bullet speed with the dum dum is slow like fmj but if u already getting used to lemat carbine this shouldnt be a problem anymore, but man watching people panic when getting bleed stat is fun

[Echorion]

I wouldn't even pay $325 for it tbh. The shotgun is like the lemat carbine's in the sense it needs slugs to be any good, and with slugs it only has one meter more kill range than the lemat carbine does.
If you put FMJ in the carbine it will have better pen than default drilling ammo, and 2 tap to the body only like 18 or so meters less.

The reload on the drilling is brutal af, and even though it's the same break action you have to close it, change the firing mode, and open it again to load the other portion for some reason. With the lemat this makes sense since only the shotgun is break action; but for the drilling it's silly.

Also, yes the drilling has a faster cycle rate for it's 2 shots, but it has so much recoil that it takes about the same time usually to get the 2nd shot off as the lemat does- except with the lemat you can keep firing if you miss one of those 2 shots.

You can take FMJ on the drilling but it generally is better to take the bleed ammo on it, which is pretty decent but I mean you can do that with a springfield and do even more damage. "But the drilling can fire twice!" if I hit them twice they are dead I don't care about the bleed, sure you get 2 chances if you whiff your first but that second chance isn't worth $510 + more for the ammo.

$230 is about the most I feel I would ever spend on this gun with stock ammo, even that is a maybe. It should cost more than the lemat carbine but anything that more than doubles the lemat carbine cost is too much.

[PEPEJULIANOZIMA]

Originally posted by Echorion:

I wouldn't even pay $325 for it tbh. The shotgun is like the lemat carbine's in the sense it needs slugs to be any good, and with slugs it only has one meter more kill range than the lemat carbine does.
If you put FMJ in the carbine it will have better pen than default drilling ammo, and 2 tap to the body only like 18 or so meters less.

The reload on the drilling is brutal af, and even though it's the same break action you have to close it, change the firing mode, and open it again to load the other portion for some reason. With the lemat this makes sense since only the shotgun is break action; but for the drilling it's silly.

Also, yes the drilling has a faster cycle rate for it's 2 shots, but it has so much recoil that it takes about the same time usually to get the 2nd shot off as the lemat does- except with the lemat you can keep firing if you miss one of those 2 shots.

You can take FMJ on the drilling but it generally is better to take the bleed ammo on it, which is pretty decent but I mean you can do that with a springfield and do even more damage. "But the drilling can fire twice!" if I hit them twice they are dead I don't care about the bleed, sure you get 2 chances if you whiff your first but that second chance isn't worth $510 + more for the ammo.

$230 is about the most I feel I would ever spend on this gun with stock ammo, even that is a maybe. It should cost more than the lemat carbine but anything that more than doubles the lemat carbine cost is too much.

yep recoil is high but pricing it to 230$ is too cheap its gona make other gun useless for example winnie centenial an lemat since their effective price is around 195$-200$+

[Echorion]

Originally posted by Regalia:

Originally posted by Echorion:

I wouldn't even pay $325 for it tbh. The shotgun is like the lemat carbine's in the sense it needs slugs to be any good, and with slugs it only has one meter more kill range than the lemat carbine does.
If you put FMJ in the carbine it will have better pen than default drilling ammo, and 2 tap to the body only like 18 or so meters less.

The reload on the drilling is brutal af, and even though it's the same break action you have to close it, change the firing mode, and open it again to load the other portion for some reason. With the lemat this makes sense since only the shotgun is break action; but for the drilling it's silly.

Also, yes the drilling has a faster cycle rate for it's 2 shots, but it has so much recoil that it takes about the same time usually to get the 2nd shot off as the lemat does- except with the lemat you can keep firing if you miss one of those 2 shots.

You can take FMJ on the drilling but it generally is better to take the bleed ammo on it, which is pretty decent but I mean you can do that with a springfield and do even more damage. "But the drilling can fire twice!" if I hit them twice they are dead I don't care about the bleed, sure you get 2 chances if you whiff your first but that second chance isn't worth $510 + more for the ammo.

$230 is about the most I feel I would ever spend on this gun with stock ammo, even that is a maybe. It should cost more than the lemat carbine but anything that more than doubles the lemat carbine cost is too much.

yep recoil is high but pricing it to 230$ is too cheap its gona make other gun useless for example winnie centenial an lemat since their effective price is around 195$-200$+

I would still take a centennial most times over the drilling. $230 is just where i personally start to consider not bothering with it, simply because you basically HAVE to buy at least slugs for it anyways.

If you think it's worth more, I respect your opinion- but I still maintain I don't think it's worth much more than $230, and definitely nothing 300 and above.

There are other ways to get value out of it too though, crytek might buff the shotgun (Namely standard buckshot I mean), allow a better reload option and/or lower the recoil, etc.... Depending on what they do in that regard my opinion on the price could change drastically.

[Curithane]

make it lik 250, at the most 280 stock and we can talk about it. Or increase the damage to 125 and make he price 325 max. until then it does not perform for its price. Its fun though

[Der Guteste TTV]

buff it until it is worth 510$. Would be awesome to have medium ammo be high/top tier weapon for once.

[SneeZ]

Yeah this gun needs serious tweaking. Reload time is abysmall, not mentioning you have to open the barrel twice to reload fully.

Fire mode switching takes so long that it's faster to just whip out your secondary when you are getting pushed.

Two tap is strong but you won't always land it and then you have to reload for 10minutes to be able to fire again, not really OP as you re vunerable to pushes and grenades, and if you will move to save your life you have no ammo to shoot if you didn't reload in time.
Serious drawback for a 500$+ weapon.

Also medium ammo at the price of long. Special ammo velocity awfully slow.

Definitely needs balance changes, and I mean a buff.

[Terminator]

great rifle with a good price for its versatility, fast reload on one bullet, decent reload on two bullets. nice damage and bullet velicity - made alot of clutches with this particular gun fighting three teams at the same time.

[Eldritch Panda]

Any high mmr player will tell you it's an insanely good gun, maybe too good.
Needs a nerf considering it's two better guns in one.

[Don Montega]

It came pre-nerfed, as it is to be expected. Double the MV penalty on assorted special ammo considering other guns, slow reload, clunky firing mode swap, can't reload both firing modes at once and due to medium ammo the dmg drop is insane.
This gun shouts "i'm long range" but it just is short-medium range. Shooting beyond 50ish meters results in no two-tap anymore. Thus it needs serious tweaking and a hefty price reduction on top.

To add on that, Flechette on it should be as accurate as on the spectre, but flechette on it has bigger spread, than pennyshot :D

[.pleasures]

I am sure that drilling should be buffed while keeping the same cost. I am really tired of mosin, lebel, berthier and krag meta which are absolutely the same weapons. We need something alternative to the S-tier. In addition, medium ammo needs buff in general, it is just have no place in game now. You choose either HV compact ammo if you are going for headshots or long ammo for wallbangs and consistent damage.

[KATAMARAN]

I would pay only 250 bucks for that gun. Tops. Its overpriced AF currently. You can get the same result with Lemat carbine or officer with deadeye.
It costs almost the same as the best shotgun/sniper in the game. Like wtf

[EmperorC3]

It either needs a price reduction, a buff or both.

For price I would probably pay ~$300. The problem is that both medium ammo and the shotgun could use custom ammo, which costs $50+$65=$115. In other words, more than a vetterli.

Buffs are relatively easy. Increase the damage to 125 and greatly reduce the spread. Also make it so you can reload the rifle and shotgun barrels at the same time. I wouldn't mind seeing it have high velocity custom ammo either.

[SneeZ]

Originally posted by Eldritch Panda:

Any high mmr player will tell you it's an insanely good gun, maybe too good.
Needs a nerf considering it's two better guns in one.

As a 6 star I can tell you that you have no idea what you re talking about

[Echorion]

Originally posted by Avto=Surenhohn:

buff it until it is worth 510$. Would be awesome to have medium ammo be high/top tier weapon for once.

yeah, could be done.

-Raise damage to 124
-increase reload speed,
-allow to hold down reload to load both firing options or just press like normal for current mode reload.
-Lower vertical recoil a bit on the rifle mode
-Tighten the shotgun's buckshot spread and increase it's range with standard and special ammo by about one meter.

Even then I would have to test it some to see if the price still doesn't need to be reduced, but it would be in a lot better state than it is now.

[Eldritch Panda]

Originally posted by SneeZ:

Originally posted by Eldritch Panda:

Any high mmr player will tell you it's an insanely good gun, maybe too good.
Needs a nerf considering it's two better guns in one.

As a 6 star I can tell you that you have no idea what you re talking about

You're 6* yet I've never seen you in us east west or europe so I can already tell you're lying to save face, or you dont play the game.
You have no idea what youre talking about.