Something needs to be done about the Avtomat at this point

[Trash_Jackson TTV]

At 6 stars, I see 2 to 3 of these being used in every match. To make matters worse, unless spectator mode is bugged, more than just a few people seem to be scripting REALLY blatantly with some of the most recoiless full auto spraying I've ever seen. No, I don't mean "controlling recoil", I mean full on just shooting it like it's a full on .22 SMG.

[Oobaneko]

Reduce ammo pool and ammo income for sparks to 10 in total and 2 per box and this will lower the value of sparks pistols.

Literally, people pick 2 sparks not because ammo pool, but because of crazy ammo income.

[Flavalicious]

Im not sure ive died to a legit feeling Avto in months lol. I have a clip from a week ago where a 5 star killed our entire 3 man in a single burst, all headshots and we werent running in a straight line.

Was hyper suspect. Lol

Also noticed some real gamer god nitro players as of late too. Getting head shots on the run from like 80m away.

[Jester]

I've been shooting it like it's Call of Duty as well. Just controlling recoil.
Unless you're hitting one burst kills from long range(I'd say 50m-60m and further) consistently throughout the match then they are scripting. Otherwise compound ranges are fair game.

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I agree that this gun should be nerfed to special ammo. Avtomat is broken AF, You're literally playing a different game than the rest . Would go so far as to say it's broken than Slugs at it's peak since its range is a lot more and can wall bang. Only way to counter is sniping from outside compounds with long ammo and turn the match into a waiting game
With that said would still use it because it's fun but I don't mind it getting nerfed to smithereens.

[Oobaneko]

Originally posted by beersnyc82:

They also need to do something about Uppercuts and Mosin. I see these weapons in every single match.

And fav by cheaters.

And people here have skill issue.

[kaannath.ttv]

The automat should never have been introduced to the game. Either they introduce other auto guns of different calibers or just remove the automat entirely. No one would miss it tbh.

[Lurre]

Originally posted by Mancomb Seepgood:

The automat should never have been introduced to the game. Either they introduce other auto guns of different calibers or just remove the automat entirely. No one would miss it tbh.

Avtomat has been here since release buddy

[Silly Cat]

Avtomat should become special ammo like the Nitro and Dolch.
spread should be RNG to counter macros.
maybe reduce rpm by 10%-20%

even at 5 stars you see/hear one every other match. Even though avtomat is my guilty pleasure i would like to see it less often.

[蓝色星原旅谣明日方舟终末地望月异环无限大]

Originally posted by beersnyc82:

They also need to do something about Uppercuts and Mosin. I see these weapons in every single match.

Lmao, now even uppercuts and mosin... These two weapons are not easy to use, skill issue.

[Silly Cat]

Originally posted by Oobaneko:

Originally posted by Yacc:

You misunderstand, i have no problem counterplaying the avtomat, i just don't want it to see it as often, i like to see it as the rare and expensive prototype style gun it is supposed to be. This is more a immersion issue for me.

There is also a difference between recognizing that a weapon became out of balance with recent patches and the typical "reee i got killed by that weapon, remove it from the game!" posts.

one could bring forth a civilized and objective discussion about weapon balance, while the other is just pointless self centered ranting and whining.

By the way, talking about weapon balance is also a thing a developer would do, do you think if they bring the avtomat up in a meeting, then one of their colleagues would tell the one who brought it up to "git gud"? that would be childish.

Right now it has just way too much ammo with bringing a sparks pistol and i say this as someone who uses the avto occasionally myself. It just feels cheap to dump dozens and dozens of rounds through walls.

I've said the best way - nerf ammo pool and income of sparks pistols. No need to nerf avto at all.

nerfing sparks pistol affects other weapons too and especially when you take sparks pistol with your shotgun or other close range options then it also nerfes these loadouts as an unintended side effect and instead of starting an long cascading series of rebalancing the problem could be pulled from the root.

[Der Guteste TTV]

Nerf that garbage gun to the trash can where it belongs.

[† Bayonetta †]

Never died to it, the first time i've used it i survived 4 matches in a row, rushing to boss with pal, he throwing nades at them while i rush in and press left click next to them and done. We extract the next moment, not worth it first of all, its not that great besides rushing and killing people 2/3 at best, leaving you without ammo, useless on long and medium range, if you lose bullets you are left with handgun that will lose you long/med range even against winfield, the moment someone start running left or right you wont be able to hit them and again 0 bullets for next engage, unless you have QM and 2 uppercuts on your 2nd bar you are quite much dead even in that case you are better of shooting someone with 2 uppercuts.

Overall useless gun, thats strong only if people you are rushing are idiots or cant hear a thing like this people were 4/5 games in a row, the moment i got into long engagement friend and i had to run. After that session i've realised how useless that gun is, i literally take my time to t-bag people who use it and throw 10 molotoves and lamps at them if i can for their stupidity. Worst part about avtomat is thats not OP, if it was i would understand people useing it.

[Maximus_Habsburg]

Originally posted by ♰ Bayonetta ♰:

Never died to it, the first time i've used it i survived 4 matches in a row, rushing to boss with pal, he throwing nades at them while i rush in and press left click next to them and done. We extract the next moment, not worth it first of all, its not that great besides rushing and killing people 2/3 at best, leaving you without ammo, useless on long and medium range, if you lose bullets you are left with handgun that will lose you long/med range even against winfield, the moment someone start running left or right you wont be able to hit them and again 0 bullets for next engage, unless you have QM and 2 uppercuts on your 2nd bar you are quite much dead even in that case you are better of shooting someone with 2 uppercuts.

Overall useless gun, thats strong only if people you are rushing are idiots or cant hear a thing like this people were 4/5 games in a row, the moment i got into long engagement friend and i had to run. After that session i've realised how useless that gun is, i literally take my time to t-bag people who use it and throw 10 molotoves and lamps at them if i can for their stupidity. Worst part about avtomat is thats not OP, if it was i would understand people useing it.

I don't think it's op at all -
It really is just a meme gun for killing bosses and rushing players inside buildings - every player kill i got with it i could have gotten with a shotgun or a sparks. If you bring an avro your entire loadout has to be build around hauling enough ammo to survive one engagement - the ammo count / cost / time to unlock it really does balance it imo.

[Lindsay]

TTV - CRINGE

[uniCornedBeef]

Avto to special ammo and it's done. Currently with dual sparks I will hear avto's firing all match long. They get WAY too much ammo every time they find an ammo crate. Kill a guy with a lebel and uppercut all you have to do is pick up the lebel and drop it then pick up the uppercut and drop it and you are back to almost full ammo. And that doesn't include whatever ammo crates you can find in the compound.

[Oobaneko]

Originally posted by cornedbeefier:

Avto to special ammo and it's done. Currently with dual sparks I will hear avto's firing all match long. They get WAY too much ammo every time they find an ammo crate. Kill a guy with a lebel and uppercut all you have to do is pick up the lebel and drop it then pick up the uppercut and drop it and you are back to almost full ammo. And that doesn't include whatever ammo crates you can find in the compound.

Then all long ammo should be speciall ammo, lol. Avto shares same rounds with mosin and one most popular rifle ammo at that moment - three lines.

Just reduce ammo income for sparks pistols and this will balance it a lot.