Lemat Carbine Shotgun Effective Range?

[Rat]

is it a romero on crack or worse? what is the effective range of the lemat carbine shotgun alt-fire?

[Der Guteste TTV]

Crytek mentioned it is considered a medium sized barrel so probably ~12m effective range like Rival.

[Rat]

Originally posted by PinappleTheFrootDood:

Crytek mentioned it is considered a medium sized barrel so probably ~12m effective range like Rival.

cool, sounds strong asf

[Echorion]

Originally posted by Brobee:

Originally posted by PinappleTheFrootDood:

Crytek mentioned it is considered a medium sized barrel so probably ~12m effective range like Rival.

cool, sounds strong asf

Thinking about how often I have to double tap with rival 78, it should be "decent" at least.
Might be good if you tap with pistol and swap it to shotgun instead of firing another rifle shot, so that you can like, finish without aiming much.

[Discotooth™]

Originally posted by PinappleTheFrootDood:

Crytek mentioned it is considered a medium sized barrel so probably ~12m effective range like Rival.

I'm not in game currently but medium means the handcannon: So whatever the effective range of the Rival handcannon is.

[Der Guteste TTV]

Originally posted by Grudgin' Claus™:

Originally posted by PinappleTheFrootDood:

Crytek mentioned it is considered a medium sized barrel so probably ~12m effective range like Rival.

I'm not in game currently but medium means the handcannon: So whatever the effective range of the Rival handcannon is.

Handcannons are considered short barrels.

[Discotooth™]

Originally posted by PinappleTheFrootDood:

Originally posted by Grudgin' Claus™:

I'm not in game currently but medium means the handcannon: So whatever the effective range of the Rival handcannon is.

Handcannons are considered short barrels.

Devs on the stream said it will be considered a medium rival. Barrel is irrelevant, Weapons are either Small, Medium or Large slot.

As for the pellet spread, its a rival so very spread to the left and right but not much verticality. It will suck if you don't shoot directly center mass as each flank will hit half of arm or nothing.

[Der Guteste TTV]

Originally posted by Grudgin' Claus™:

Originally posted by PinappleTheFrootDood:

Handcannons are considered short barrels.

Devs on the stream said it will be considered a medium rival. Barrel is irrelevant, Weapons are either Small, Medium or Large slot.

As for the pellet spread, its a rival so very spread to the left and right but not much verticality. It will suck if you don't shoot directly center mass as each flank will hit half of arm or nothing.

Shotguns are also classified as long barrel (like romero), medium barrel (rival, slate) and short barrels (handcannons, normal lemat).
They said the lemat carbine is considered is a medium barrel and will perform like the full sized Rival. They did not say it is a medium size shotgun. I know it sounds confusing, but it is different.

[Discotooth™]

Originally posted by PinappleTheFrootDood:

Originally posted by Grudgin' Claus™:

Devs on the stream said it will be considered a medium rival. Barrel is irrelevant, Weapons are either Small, Medium or Large slot.

As for the pellet spread, its a rival so very spread to the left and right but not much verticality. It will suck if you don't shoot directly center mass as each flank will hit half of arm or nothing.

Shotguns are also classified as long barrel (like romero), medium barrel (rival, slate) and short barrels (handcannons, normal lemat).
They said the lemat carbine is considered is a medium barrel and will perform like the full sized Rival.

Thats new tech if true, cheers for the info. I am aware of the effective ranges but not the "barrel" terminology.

[l0ader]

psychoghost said the shotgun shot can be compared with a long caldwell shot. If you ask who he is, he is one of the best hunt showdown players on earth, just like ratcha z. watch some youtube videos of them if you want to know them.

[EmperorC3]

Originally posted by Aimee:

From experience, its the shortest range shotgun weapon in the game. And also deals significantly less damage than most.
It has more spread than saw off shotguns, so the effective range is also less because of that.
Its decent to finish off someone point blank that has taken a lot of damage already. But dont expect to one shot kill anyone unless you shoot their head off. :P

Carbine or pistol? For pistol sure, but thats not what post is about.

If you check in arsenal, lemat carbine shotgun has same stats as Crown and King, not the rival. This could be a UI bug, but if true it would mean lemat carbine has a long barrel shotgun, with same stats as Crown. So a little worse than romero buckshot, but with slugs its on par.

For anyone curious about how shotgun damage and damage falloff works there are three kinds of barrels: Long, medium, and short.
Long: Romero, Specter, Crown and King
Medium: Rival, Specter bayonet, Terminus
Short: ALL handcannons and lemat pistol

The barrel determines the damage falloff, similar to how compact, medium and long determine damage falloff for the other weapons. It's why handcannons can have such high base damage but terrible effective range compared to their bigger counterparts.

[l0ader]

well psychoghost has much more gaming experience than the devs so i trust more his opinion that it is more a rival than crown

[EmperorC3]

Originally posted by l0ader:

well psychoghost has much more gaming experience than the devs so i trust more his opinion that it is more a rival than crown

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Both devs and psycho said it's like rival lol. I'd like to point out the actual stats say its like crown. Unfortunately stats, streamers and the devs for this game are often wrong and I can't tell for certain until I unlock it.

[Aimee]

Originally posted by EmperorC3:

Originally posted by Aimee:

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Carbine or pistol? For pistol sure, but thats not what post is about.

Ah my bad, was talking about the Pistol. Thanks for pointing it out ill remove the post to prevent confusion.

[geordiebroon58]

lemat shotgun mode is underrated, i think its a better effective range than people ever realise (in fact the whole shotgun crosshair spread is misleading)

its somewhat reliable but is only worth using in a pinch

[l0ader]

Originally posted by EmperorC3:

Originally posted by l0ader:

well psychoghost has much more gaming experience than the devs so i trust more his opinion that it is more a rival than crown

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Both devs and psycho said it's like rival lol. I'd like to point out the actual stats say its like crown. Unfortunately stats, streamers and the devs for this game are often wrong and I can't tell for certain until I unlock it.

yeah of course stats and streamers are most of the time wrong but guys like psycho and rachta are not only streamers. they are playing more than most of us and show us how the guns work. dude one of them has 6000 hours and 39.000 kills. where you get more expierence than this???