Wallhack in 90% games. Nice event by the way...

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WALLHACK + SHOTGUNS in 5 stars. IN ALL THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ GAMES TODAY. Are you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ serious? Who is going to do something with it, or can the game be forgotten like a million other games devoured by cheaters, with the full connivance of the developers?

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引用自 Grudgin' Claus™：

Wallhack in every single game actually, its a core mechanic with darksight.

No, not dark vision, if no one has even touched the bosses yet, and they are already trying to kill you by coming to you from the other end of the map, or just shooting at you from a distance of more than 200 meters to no avail. The radius of dark vision is 150 meters maximum, for a second.

[Goldtooth™]

I knew you'd say that, thats what the rest of my post was for.

引用自 Grudgin' Claus™：

What I imagine you are experiencing is Wallbangs, which are nothing to do with darksight or hacking, and is because they can HEAR YOU but not see you. Yes, you will die to shotguns this way.

Inb4 "I WAS BEING QUIET!" That doesn't matter, crouchwalking is still audible especially on a wooden floor if the enemy is not moving.

Inb4 "I WASNT EVEN MOVING AT ALL" That doesn't matter, selecting equipment or ADS'ing is enough to give somebody your position. Likelyhood is if you are motionless but camping its probably in a spot that most scared campers sit in, so they can blindfire that.

引用自 ПАУК - ПИЦЦЕЕД：

No, not dark vision, if no one has even touched the bosses yet, and they are already trying to kill you by coming to you from the other end of the map, or just shooting at you from a distance of more than 200 meters to no avail. The radius of dark vision is 150 meters maximum, for a second.

You have not been killed by shotguns 200m away, so you are making stuff up.

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引用自 Grudgin' Claus™：

I knew you'd say that, thats what the rest of my post was for.

引用自 Grudgin' Claus™：

What I imagine you are experiencing is Wallbangs, which are nothing to do with darksight or hacking, and is because they can HEAR YOU but not see you. Yes, you will die to shotguns this way.

Inb4 "I WAS BEING QUIET!" That doesn't matter, crouchwalking is still audible especially on a wooden floor if the enemy is not moving.

Inb4 "I WASNT EVEN MOVING AT ALL" That doesn't matter, selecting equipment or ADS'ing is enough to give somebody your position. Likelyhood is if you are motionless but camping its probably in a spot that most scared campers sit in, so they can blindfire that.

引用自 ПАУК - ПИЦЦЕЕД：

No, not dark vision, if no one has even touched the bosses yet, and they are already trying to kill you by coming to you from the other end of the map, or just shooting at you from a distance of more than 200 meters to no avail. The radius of dark vision is 150 meters maximum, for a second.

You have not been killed by shotguns 200m away, so you are making stuff up.

Of course, there are no cheaters in this perfect game. Especially Chinese cheaters, right? Players talking about cheaters probably all make mistakes and confuse cheaters with "skill players"... Skill players who see you from the other end of the map but can't hit you because they're too skill-based. There are also no problems with registering hits, probably this is also a mistake of the players and not the developer. There are probably much more important things than what the players are constantly talking about. These important things are skins of clowns and various circus freaks, who do not belong in the hunt showdown, but in DBD or similar ♥♥♥♥.

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引用自 ПАУК - ПИЦЦЕЕД：

Of course, there are no cheaters in this perfect game. Especially Chinese cheaters, right? Players talking about cheaters probably all make mistakes and confuse cheaters with "skill players"... Skill players who see you from the other end of the map but can't hit you because they're too skill-based. There are also no problems with registering hits, probably this is also a mistake of the players and not the developer. There are probably much more important things than what the players are constantly talking about. These important things are skins of clowns and various circus freaks, who do not belong in the hunt showdown, but in DBD or similar ♥♥♥♥.

Yes, cheaters do exist. They are NOT in every game or even slightly common, I have experienced 2 in 1500 hours.

Yes, I do think alot of players mistake "good skill" players for cheaters, or they simply can't handle losing and find it easier to swallow they were killed by a cheater.

There are very few problems registering hits, if you disagree show me a clip of your gameplay (and also make sure your performance stats are on so I can see your ping)

and we come to a final loop on "skins are more important", when the guys that combat cheaters and fix bugs ARE NOT graphics designers and artists. Have you got any actual valid points to make here or are you just here to spout nonsense?

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引用自 Grudgin' Claus™：

引用自 ПАУК - ПИЦЦЕЕД：

Of course, there are no cheaters in this perfect game. Especially Chinese cheaters, right? Players talking about cheaters probably all make mistakes and confuse cheaters with "skill players"... Skill players who see you from the other end of the map but can't hit you because they're too skill-based. There are also no problems with registering hits, probably this is also a mistake of the players and not the developer. There are probably much more important things than what the players are constantly talking about. These important things are skins of clowns and various circus freaks, who do not belong in the hunt showdown, but in DBD or similar ♥♥♥♥.

Yes, cheaters do exist. They are NOT in every game or even slightly common, I have experienced 2 in 1500 hours.

Yes, I do think alot of players mistake "good skill" players for cheaters, or they simply can't handle losing and find it easier to swallow they were killed by a cheater.

There are very few problems registering hits, if you disagree show me a clip of your gameplay (and also make sure your performance stats are on so I can see your ping)

and we come to a final loop on "skins are more important", when the guys that combat cheaters and fix bugs ARE NOT graphics designers and artists. Have you got any actual valid points to make here or are you just here to spout nonsense?

I can distinguish a cheater from a "skill player". As many other players can. Obviously, it's much easier for many developers to call all of us liars than to fight cheaters.

My suggestion is very simple, to make a normal anti-cheat after a long time after the release of the game. If developers have the time and money to hire designers and draw another freak, then why don't they find the time and money to hire someone who will finally fix their ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game? Or buy a normal anti-cheat, for example? I think most of the players will survive if they don't see another clown with an "interesting story" in the hunters DLC section in the near future.

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引用自 ПАУК - ПИЦЦЕЕД：

引用自 Grudgin' Claus™：

Yes, cheaters do exist. They are NOT in every game or even slightly common, I have experienced 2 in 1500 hours.

Yes, I do think alot of players mistake "good skill" players for cheaters, or they simply can't handle losing and find it easier to swallow they were killed by a cheater.

There are very few problems registering hits, if you disagree show me a clip of your gameplay (and also make sure your performance stats are on so I can see your ping)

and we come to a final loop on "skins are more important", when the guys that combat cheaters and fix bugs ARE NOT graphics designers and artists. Have you got any actual valid points to make here or are you just here to spout nonsense?

I can distinguish a cheater from a "skill player". As many other players can. Obviously, it's much easier for many developers to call all of us liars than to fight cheaters.

My suggestion is very simple, to make a normal anti-cheat after a long time after the release of the game. If developers have the time and money to hire designers and draw another freak, then why don't they find the time and money to hire someone who will finally fix their ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game? Or buy a normal anti-cheat, for example? I think most of the players will survive if they don't see another clown with an "interesting story" in the hunters DLC section in the near future.

There is already an anticheat system, and its working considering the waves that ban many, and then you see them in this forum claiming they did nothing wrong. It works fine, cheaters are not common at all.

You can indeed tell a cheater from a "good skill player", but I highly believe you will call a good player, cheater because they beat you and you are mad.

Again, the artists and graphics designers / people that write the lore have absolutely NOTHING to do with the other developers that fix bugs and whatever else, that arguement is braindead.

If you want to post a clip of these cheaters that you see in EVERY GAME, I'd love to sit and watch them... You won't though.

[semidry_]

I was pretty lucky today, only had 1 sus enemy hunter in MMR 5.. But agree, sometimes it's really annoying and obvious.. Especially when there is someone with an avtomat who kills everyone with one shot headshots through walls.. all these people who say "i have played 4k hours and NEVER met a cheater" are just bad and don't whats going on or they are trolling period. Or they are cheating lol

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引用自 Grudgin' Claus™：

引用自 ПАУК - ПИЦЦЕЕД：

I can distinguish a cheater from a "skill player". As many other players can. Obviously, it's much easier for many developers to call all of us liars than to fight cheaters.

My suggestion is very simple, to make a normal anti-cheat after a long time after the release of the game. If developers have the time and money to hire designers and draw another freak, then why don't they find the time and money to hire someone who will finally fix their ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game? Or buy a normal anti-cheat, for example? I think most of the players will survive if they don't see another clown with an "interesting story" in the hunters DLC section in the near future.

There is already an anticheat system, and its working considering the waves that ban many, and then you see them in this forum claiming they did nothing wrong. It works fine, cheaters are not common at all.

You can indeed tell a cheater from a "good skill player", but I highly believe you will call a good player, cheater because they beat you and you are mad.

Again, the artists and graphics designers / people that write the lore have absolutely NOTHING to do with the other developers that fix bugs and whatever else, that arguement is braindead.

If you want to post a clip of these cheaters that you see in EVERY GAME, I'd love to sit and watch them... You won't though.

Of course, the current system works. Moreover, it works so well that you can meet a cheater with a million messages about fraud under his profile half a year after the first meeting, on the same account, and he will just as calmly play with private cheats, and sometimes even STREAM it live.

I will specifically record a few games in the next couple of weeks because I have already missed enough opportunities over the past few days. But what would be the point if there are players who play with cheats and stream it, or upload videos with cheats to the network? Maybe it would be much better if there was a patrol in this game, like in some others?

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引用自 tinytatoe：

I was pretty lucky today, only had 1 sus enemy hunter in MMR 5.. But agree, sometimes it's really annoying and obvious.. Especially when there is someone with an avtomat who kills everyone with one shot headshots through walls.. all these people who say "i have played 4k hours and NEVER met a cheater" are just bad and don't whats going on or they are trolling period. Or they are cheating lol

Obviously they are playing this game on some other planet if they haven't seen enough cheaters in 4000 hours)

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I've seen actual wallhackers. Wana know what they actually do?
Snipe heashot you trough wall with penetrating ammo. I've experienced that a couple of time, and it's a clear cut case of wall hacking.

Shotgun tho, ie the weapon that require you to be close enough to HEAR YOU?
That's a pretty big wast of wallhacking.

Is it still possible they were actually wall hacking?
Sure. But the odds are more in the favor of you being like so many player, a guy that apprently don't understand how much sound you make while rolling around.

[Goldtooth™]

Cheaters don't obey game rules, they fly around and headshot you through GROUND and cover that cannot be shot through, the two counts of this happening in my 1500 hours were winfield(c) from several hundred meters

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I jus want to say to the op respect to you for not cheating, I notice your Russian...... you are a minority amongst your fellow comrades. Do not worry so much about the game, just know your a better player than the cheaters

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引用自 HN：

I've seen actual wallhackers. Wana know what they actually do?
Snipe heashot you trough wall with penetrating ammo. I've experienced that a couple of time, and it's a clear cut case of wall hacking.

Shotgun tho, ie the weapon that require you to be close enough to HEAR YOU?
That's a pretty big wast of wallhacking.

Is it still possible they were actually wall hacking?
Sure. But the odds are more in the favor of you being like so many player, a guy that apprently don't understand how much sound you make while rolling around.

What sounds do you want to hear from a distance + - 150 - 200 meters? Provided that I'm not doing anything at all, literally no sounds other than moving sounds. I don't run, I don't jump, I don't scare horses and crows, I don't set fire to anything, I don't step on crunchy branches and I don't fall into the water, I don't hit mobs, I don't yell in the voice chat, and I certainly don't shoot? And when I bypass a team of cheaters by 90 - 180 degrees, I appear from a completely new position - they try to kill me at the same second without even seeing me directly.

People who focus on "sounds", stop telling me this, I perfectly understand how sound can betray players, and I don't make these sounds. Once again, I can distinguish a cheater from a skill.

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YEAH EVERYBODY SEEMS TO HAVE A WALLHACK!!!11
ALL I DO IS RUN AND MAKE NOISE AND PEEK THE SAME SPOTS OVER AND OVER AND SUDDENLY I GET SHOT?!?!?!

its not a wallhack. its called footsteps and map knowledge

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引用自 Der Atzenkeeper：

YEAH EVERYBODY SEEMS TO HAVE A WALLHACK!!!11
ALL I DO IS RUN AND MAKE NOISE AND PEEK THE SAME SPOTS OVER AND OVER AND SUDDENLY I GET SHOT?!?!?!

its not a wallhack. its called footsteps and map knowledge

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