7.1 or Stereo

[Barbarossa]

I want to ask you a question, do you use 7.1 headphones or Stereo headphones for Hunt:Showdown? Which would be better for sound detection?

[Martyr for Blood]

Pugio původně napsal:

There are true surround headphones with multiple speakers but sound quality suffers due to the reduced driver sizes needed to fit in the necessary number per side. Not generally recommended. But these can take in and put out true surround sound signals.

All stereo headphones can use virtual surround with virtualization software like Dolby Atmos or Windows Sonic which upscales from 2 channels to a virtual 7.1 or 5.1.

These are not a good choice for Hunt since it has its own binaural sound engine. You'll end up with sound virtualization being processed twice and likely getting audio artifacts.

Then you can use a gaming DAC or soundcard like the Sennheiser GSX1000 or SoundBlaster Z series that takes in 7.1 channels and virtualizes it for stereo headphones. In this case Hunt outputs like it was sending sound to a true surround system bypassing its own 3D sound engine.

But note that not all gaming DACs take surround sound inputs. Cheaper systems like the Astros only take in stereo inputs and upscale in hardware with something like Dolby Headphone. These are alright but don't give particularly convincing surround sound.

So for Hunt you can get good spatial sound from a good (i.e. non-gaming) DAC and a good pair of stereo headphones without using any 3rd party virtualization software.

But, IMO, something like the GSX1000 DAC coupled with a good pair of open-back stereo headphones gives far superior spatial sound.

If only they put a better amp/dac and mic input on the GSX they would have the best on the market.

[Zen]

CozMick původně napsal:

Binaural audio doesn't work as intended with surround sound, keep it at Stereo

This no question. Ran Dolby Atmos Surround for months on RIG800HDs, switching to Beyerdynamic DT990s was night and day. Positional audio is 1000% better, and the extra codec filtering the sound from what was intended just muddies it. Ditch the surround.

[NerdWithFacialHair]

Owl Vision původně napsal:

My friend using a stereo headphones ( Steel series artics 5 ), I m using a trash Chinese 7.1 headphones, My sound detection better then Steel series artics 5! hes unable to correctly detect the direction of the sounds coming from nearby. Footsteps for example

I just bought arctis 5. Everything is 10/10 except 7.1. The surround is fuc king everything up in Hunt. It's just a big mess of sounds that are impossible to tell apart. @OP use stereo. Even the game is hinting you that stereo is the best for Hunt.

PS : They should stop making 7.1 hp anyways. No one wants it and no one is using it anyways.

[eW.MonitorZero]

Physickl původně napsal:

TucanMcStabbin původně napsal:

I use beyerdynamics dt770s which are stereo with my sound card set to 7.1 headphones

Granted I have additional settings that help me personally but I also just have a straight stereo option as well that has never done as good as the 7.1 setting.

This game in particular really needs a decent DAC or soundcard IMHO.

7.1 is a gimmick an u dont need a sound card or dac with most gaming headsets/motherboards today, ur headset may need 1 to drive sound , it lacks bass as its OB, a super wide sound stage is not good for gaming

Good thing I use other things besides the 7.1 setting to get the best edge I can then.

[Martyr for Blood]

Physickl původně napsal:

TucanMcStabbin původně napsal:

I use beyerdynamics dt770s which are stereo with my sound card set to 7.1 headphones

Granted I have additional settings that help me personally but I also just have a straight stereo option as well that has never done as good as the 7.1 setting.

This game in particular really needs a decent DAC or soundcard IMHO.

7.1 is a gimmick an u dont need a sound card or dac with most gaming headsets/motherboards today, ur headset may need 1 to drive sound , it lacks bass as its OB, a super wide sound stage is not good for gaming

On cheap headsets yes 7.1 is a gimmick but with good HRTF like SBX or GSX or the many others that are coming out they can be a great advantage to have over your enemy. If you are content with the crap stereo 3d sound from crytek be my guest considering they can not even get close to balancing there game and fixing the massive amount of bugs and the game breaking desync rubberbanding and server issues that plague hunt sure they magically got audio right lol.

[Kazmor]

7.1. and 5.1 headphones are bs. The emulation also loses sound quality and unless you are disabled and cant hear correctyl anymore I woud suggest you to use a proper Stereo Setup.

Headphones dont know where the enemys are! They cant know it at all, it guesses based on raw data - however it will never be exact.

Dont shy away from using normal Stereo setup, its different if you are used to bad 5.1. or 7.1. emulations, its mainly quiter (which is obviously easly fixed by making the source louder), you will get used to the different sound after a while and will leanr again to appreciate certain dynamics and learn to use these to your advantage.

Martyr for Blood původně napsal:

Physickl původně napsal:

7.1 is a gimmick an u dont need a sound card or dac with most gaming headsets/motherboards today, ur headset may need 1 to drive sound , it lacks bass as its OB, a super wide sound stage is not good for gaming

On cheap headsets yes 7.1 is a gimmick but with good HRTF like SBX or GSX or the many others that are coming out they can be a great advantage to have over your enemy. If you are content with the crap stereo 3d sound from crytek be my guest considering they can not even get close to balancing there game and fixing the massive amount of bugs and the game breaking desync rubberbanding and server issues that plague hunt sure they magically got audio right lol.

Well audio department is different, I dont know who made it for them but they did a pretty good job. I did audio design for a living and there is no major issue in audio perception in this game, or mainly any other shooter right now. Probably cause the systems are pretty similar. Its no magic at all just normal maths.

SBX or GSX will not save you, Stereo is the best way to get the best result possible. The only time it really makes sense if the srouce is 7.1 / 5.1. like in movies OR if theres no binural audio in the game you are playing and you want it for them reason. If the game has it, its 99,99% of the time better, simply due to the reason that the game knows where the sound shoud come from, your headphones dont and have no access to that information.

[Konfl1kt]

Zig the Caver původně napsal:

Then you can use a gaming DAC or soundcard like the Sennheiser GSX1000 or SoundBlaster Z series that takes in 7.1 channels and virtualizes it for stereo headphones. In this case Hunt outputs like it was sending sound to a true surround system bypassing its own 3D sound engine.

Hi, where does this info come from? Just curious. Just bought Schiit Hel 2 and GSX 1200. My headset is GSP 600. Audio through GSX 1200 sound messy. Want to understand why Hunt should work fine with GSX, how does it know that it should turn of its own sound engine.
Thank you.

[𝐎ᥣᑯ𝐑𝖾ᑯ𝐅ⱺ𝗑]

I use Blackshark V2 Pro and stereo. Very happy with the result.

[Dexta]

Believe it or not stereo works a lot better than "surround" sound in Hunt particularly. After my Logitech headphones broke I bought surround sound ones specifically to play Hunt. After installing the software and enabling it the experience was horrible. The surround sound feature worked but it overcompensated for everything and I was hearing a grunt walking 30 meters from me like it was right next to me. When I uninstalled the software and used the default windows drivers, meaning the new headphones were working in stereo it worked flawlessly. I think the issue is that Hunt is already designed with binaural surround sound in mind, so getting surround sound in the headphones themselves on top of that messes things up. Just my two cents

[arji`]

the developers use beyerdynamic DT-990 .. i think they know why ;)

[Zig the Caver]

Konfl1kt původně napsal:

Zig the Caver původně napsal:

Then you can use a gaming DAC or soundcard like the Sennheiser GSX1000 or SoundBlaster Z series that takes in 7.1 channels and virtualizes it for stereo headphones. In this case Hunt outputs like it was sending sound to a true surround system bypassing its own 3D sound engine.

Hi, where does this info come from? Just curious. Just bought Schiit Hel 2 and GSX 1200. My headset is GSP 600. Audio through GSX 1200 sound messy. Want to understand why Hunt should work fine with GSX, how does it know that it should turn of its own sound engine.
Thank you.

Ancient post, I know, but it it handled through Windows sound settings depending if you have your audio device set to stereo or surround.

[Mapwales]

Tuhaf původně napsal:

I want to ask you a question, do you use 7.1 headphones or Stereo headphones for Hunt:Showdown? Which would be better for sound detection?

Games made for stereo but can work with surround sound with tweaks

[Derpaholic]

Old post but I can add some info for those still searching. Stereo is almost always the way to go. I've had a few headsets over the years none of which were over say 200$ and from my experience stereo usually sounded better. I never had a dac or amp so I can't say for those.

For Hunt I ended up sticking with a Logitech G935 (only for the wireless convenience) and apparently wireless sets have their own built in drivers. 7.1 on this sounds much better directionally, I tend to always hear enemy teams and sounds before my team. The only complaint I have about 7.1 on this set is enemies and bosses can sometimes deafen you indoors. Also, it's harder to tell if an enemy player is above or below you but other audio cues help.

I also have a HyperX cloud alpha (wired set) that has 7.1 but it sounds completely different. Sometimes I couldn't hear audio that's underground and other times while above ground I hear only sounds below as if I was down there with them. Hunters dying was hard to detect as well as some throwables. For whatever reason if a team member is pulling arrows out of corpses the sound effect always played as if you were doing it. Stereo on this set is much clearer than the 935 as you'd expect.

In closing, all I can really say is give whatever headset you have that supports 7.1 a try, 7.1 can sometimes sound much better than stereo but more often than not stereo sounds great across the board and has the least chance of sound anomalies.

[Barbarossa]

Derpaholic původně napsal:

Old post but I can add some info for those still searching. Stereo is almost always the way to go. I've had a few headsets over the years none of which were over say 200$ and from my experience stereo usually sounded better. I never had a dac or amp so I can't say for those.

For Hunt I ended up sticking with a Logitech G935 (only for the wireless convenience) and apparently wireless sets have their own built in drivers. 7.1 on this sounds much better directionally, I tend to always hear enemy teams and sounds before my team. The only complaint I have about 7.1 on this set is enemies and bosses can sometimes deafen you indoors. Also, it's harder to tell if an enemy player is above or below you but other audio cues help.

I also have a HyperX cloud alpha (wired set) that has 7.1 but it sounds completely different. Sometimes I couldn't hear audio that's underground and other times while above ground I hear only sounds below as if I was down there with them. Hunters dying was hard to detect as well as some throwables. For whatever reason if a team member is pulling arrows out of corpses the sound effect always played as if you were doing it. Stereo on this set is much clearer than the 935 as you'd expect.

In closing, all I can really say is give whatever headset you have that supports 7.1 a try, 7.1 can sometimes sound much better than stereo but more often than not stereo sounds great across the board and has the least chance of sound anomalies.

ty bro ! long time

[apsol]

Derpaholic původně napsal:

Old post but I can add some info for those still searching. Stereo is almost always the way to go. I've had a few headsets over the years none of which were over say 200$ and from my experience stereo usually sounded better. I never had a dac or amp so I can't say for those.

For Hunt I ended up sticking with a Logitech G935 (only for the wireless convenience) and apparently wireless sets have their own built in drivers. 7.1 on this sounds much better directionally, I tend to always hear enemy teams and sounds before my team. The only complaint I have about 7.1 on this set is enemies and bosses can sometimes deafen you indoors. Also, it's harder to tell if an enemy player is above or below you but other audio cues help.

I also have a HyperX cloud alpha (wired set) that has 7.1 but it sounds completely different. Sometimes I couldn't hear audio that's underground and other times while above ground I hear only sounds below as if I was down there with them. Hunters dying was hard to detect as well as some throwables. For whatever reason if a team member is pulling arrows out of corpses the sound effect always played as if you were doing it. Stereo on this set is much clearer than the 935 as you'd expect.

In closing, all I can really say is give whatever headset you have that supports 7.1 a try, 7.1 can sometimes sound much better than stereo but more often than not stereo sounds great across the board and has the least chance of sound anomalies.

That's the game fault. The inconsistent sounds. The footsteps that drives you crazy and then you find out they are underground is something related to the sound occlusion or whatever that word may be.

The sounds fading in and out are game fault not 7.1 software.