People teaming up?

[Stuntzombie]

Either the team details report after the match is bugged or there are alot of people "teaming up" Has anybody else noticed this? I've only ever really encountered this actually happening before.

[Der Rattenkonig]

"Teaming" is not against the rules and isn't a punishable offense apparently. When I looked it up it says though it isn't encouraged, if you team with an enemy in game by happenstance, then it isn't a punishable offense,

[KenoKereStyle]

Originally posted by Der Rattenkonig:

"Teaming" is not against the rules and isn't a punishable offense apparently. When I looked it up it says though it isn't encouraged, if you team with an enemy in game by happenstance, then it isn't a punishable offense,

teaming is not punishable as long as you team up in game, and there is proof of that (chat, voice, logs).

teaming before the match starts, e.g. discord and starting game at same time, is a punishable offence with a escalating ban, for multiple offences.

I had in one match, 3 duos teaming up. After end game, I saw that 4 of them were friends in steam. All reported, but i doubt any of them got banned.

[iLLuSia]

Originally posted by KenoKereStyle:

Originally posted by Der Rattenkonig:

"Teaming" is not against the rules and isn't a punishable offense apparently. When I looked it up it says though it isn't encouraged, if you team with an enemy in game by happenstance, then it isn't a punishable offense,

teaming is not punishable as long as you team up in game, and there is proof of that (chat, voice, logs).

teaming before the match starts, e.g. discord and starting game at same time, is a punishable offence with a escalating ban, for multiple offences.

I had in one match, 3 duos teaming up. After end game, I saw that 4 of them were friends in steam. All reported, but i doubt any of them got banned.

I landed in a game accidently with an ally from friendlist in another team. When I picked up bounty he realized it and wrote me through steam. We agreed that we gonna go over and help him, since his mate had died and he was 1vs2. By the time we arrived though unfortunately he was dead, too.

You'd report us if it had worked out, hm? Fortunately people don't get banned after just one incident.

[KenoKereStyle]

Originally posted by iLLuSia:

Originally posted by KenoKereStyle:

teaming is not punishable as long as you team up in game, and there is proof of that (chat, voice, logs).

teaming before the match starts, e.g. discord and starting game at same time, is a punishable offence with a escalating ban, for multiple offences.

I had in one match, 3 duos teaming up. After end game, I saw that 4 of them were friends in steam. All reported, but i doubt any of them got banned.

I landed in a game accidently with an ally from friendlist in another team. When I picked up bounty he realized it and wrote me through steam. We agreed that we gonna go over and help him, since his mate had died and he was 1vs2. By the time we arrived though unfortunately he was dead, too.

You'd report us if it had worked out, hm? Fortunately people don't get banned after just one incident.

YOU LITERALLY ADMITTED OF TEAMING OUTSIDE THE GAME... lol...
where are the mods ?

[KenoKereStyle]

"We agreed that we gonna go over and help him, since his mate had died and he was 1vs2. " this is teaming outside the game.

[iLLuSia]

Originally posted by KenoKereStyle:

"We agreed that we gonna go over and help him, since his mate had died and he was 1vs2. " this is teaming outside the game.

If it'd happen to you, you'd tell your friend "sorry bud, I'm the compound next to you but by official rules I'm not allowed to help you"?

Like it would believe that even for a second. :P You just not man enough to write it here.

[Echorion]

Originally posted by KenoKereStyle:

Originally posted by Der Rattenkonig:

"Teaming" is not against the rules and isn't a punishable offense apparently. When I looked it up it says though it isn't encouraged, if you team with an enemy in game by happenstance, then it isn't a punishable offense,

teaming is not punishable as long as you team up in game, and there is proof of that (chat, voice, logs).

teaming before the match starts, e.g. discord and starting game at same time, is a punishable offence with a escalating ban, for multiple offences.

I had in one match, 3 duos teaming up. After end game, I saw that 4 of them were friends in steam. All reported, but i doubt any of them got banned.

They don't ban anyone other than cheaters afaik, and even then only with concrete evidence or if they trip the anti cheat.

I've reported people for just shooting and reviving us to death on extract and nothing happened

[thechariot1x]

Originally posted by iLLuSia:

"sorry bud, I'm the compound next to you but by official rules I'm not allowed to help you"?

Like it would believe that even for a second. :P You just not man enough to write it here.

"sorry bud, I'm in the compound next to you but that's considered cheating in this game."

I also like you're description of that exchange leaving it open to interpretation that the other team was doing something wrong, or taking advantage of the situation. "His buddy died and he was 1vs2." So in other words, they killed his teammate and y'all thought the appropriate response was to double team them for that. Dang, I must've missed the rule update that warned against killing people who are duos with friends of iLLuSia.

[thechariot1x]

So if I disagree with you I'm an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and if I kill your friend's friend you have the right to arrange an unofficial team outside the game? Can I get a copy of all your rules just so I can keep track?

"Who would do the exact same thing if he'd accidentally be put into a game with a friend, just be too afraid to tell it."

No actually, had this conversation already with a friend because I think it's cheap even spontaneously. I've been unofficially teamed on before and it's not fun at all nor does it feel particularly fair. In fact, I don't unofficially team with people I don't know in game if they ask either because I don't agree with it.

I think the rules specify it that way though so that if you spontaneously decide to team you have to run the risk of getting shot in game while people can tell you are having a convo, and if you are actively teaming up during a fight, the other teams can see what you say as well and know that there is another team coming as in the case of your friend.

Making people do it in local chat also makes it a lot harder to team btw (you gotta be close to each other) which may be part of the objective since actually outlawing it might be extremely difficult to enforce.

[iLLuSia]

Originally posted by thechariot1x:

So if I disagree with you I'm an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥,

Well, as I already indicated in my very first post, I do think that most people have an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥-mentality. If they think something isn't fair for them, they get angry, they refuse to understand the other viewpoints and they demand "justice".

Originally posted by KenoKereStyle:

where are the mods ?

Honestly to me this simply looks like the me2 movement with a different coat.

Originally posted by thechariot1x:

and if I kill your friend's friend you have the right to arrange an unofficial team outside the game? Can I get a copy of all your rules just so I can keep track?

And there's always some unnecessary and demeaning sentences added on top. Dunno why the ♥♥♥♥ you ask such a question. Except for the purpose of calling my opinion something bad, because it doesn't fit yours.

Originally posted by thechariot1x:

"Who would do the exact same thing if he'd accidentally be put into a game with a friend, just be too afraid to tell it."

No actually, had this conversation already with a friend because I think it's cheap even spontaneously. I've been unofficially teamed on before and it's not fun at all nor does it feel particularly fair. In fact, I don't unofficially team with people I don't know in game if they ask either because I don't agree with it.

As the shotguns and snipers debate: You are not entitled to dictate my playstyle. Hunt specifically allows teaming up, it's for the sake of atmosphere, to make the game feel more real and not like team red vs team blue. It's supposed to give a new experience, a harsh world, something people demand on this forum all the time, too. For this it sacrifices a bit of fairness, but that's the point, and you could simply extract if you feel the situation is unfair.

If you don't like it, it does't really matter, and if you refuse to understand this because it doesn't fit your viewpoint.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Still I think most people who'd be against other players teaming up against them would do it themselves if an opportunity accidently arises.

Originally we didn't even plan to team up, just to meet on the map. That was the point of the experience. We thought the server is empty. Then they got shot and my friend asked me whether we would stiill be coming or should interfere, which I then discussed with my ally, too. We decided to go over there, but were too late anyway. It would have been a nice experience, as long as it's just done once. I'd probably be against it doing it multiple times anyway.

I think you won't understand this and continue to sit on your opinion and insist that you know better how other players experience fun.

[TurntUpToaster]

ive seen a few Chinese players teaming up in OCE. it usually only happens in events from what ive seen, super pathetic

[Anatolius]

Not really. At least not voluntarily.

[Barry MaCockiner]

“The code is more what you’d call ‘guidelines’ than actual rules.”
– Barbossa, Pirates of the Caribbean

[JHarlequin]

As people said, that is outside of game. It probably wouldn't get action even if you were reported, but the rule basically is "if you didn't use in game voice, then don't team up".

Teaming is also one of the more difficult things to prove, which is why action on it is kind of rare.

As for if someone sees that you are in their hunt, and sends you a steam or discord message, you probably should ignore it as you are already in a hunt. But yes if they ask for help and you read it, go ahead and help, but if you make a habit of it and keep getting reported, you might get a ban. There is no set number on it, it's more of if the support team sees a pattern of the activity.

[thechariot1x]

Originally posted by iLLuSia:

Originally posted by thechariot1x:

So if I disagree with you I'm an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥,

Well, as I already indicated in my very first post, I do think that most people have an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥-mentality. If they think something isn't fair for them, they get angry, they refuse to understand the other viewpoints and they demand "justice".

And there's always some unnecessary and demeaning sentences added on top. Dunno why the ♥♥♥♥ you ask such a question. Except for the purpose of calling my opinion something bad, because it doesn't fit yours.

Originally posted by thechariot1x:

"Who would do the exact same thing if he'd accidentally be put into a game with a friend, just be too afraid to tell it."

No actually, had this conversation already with a friend because I think it's cheap even spontaneously. I've been unofficially teamed on before and it's not fun at all nor does it feel particularly fair. In fact, I don't unofficially team with people I don't know in game if they ask either because I don't agree with it.

As the shotguns and snipers debate: You are not entitled to dictate my playstyle. Hunt specifically allows teaming up, it's for the sake of atmosphere, to make the game feel more real and not like team red vs team blue. It's supposed to give a new experience, a harsh world, something people demand on this forum all the time, too. For this it sacrifices a bit of fairness, but that's the point, and you could simply extract if you feel the situation is unfair.

If you don't like it, it does't really matter, and if you refuse to understand this because it doesn't fit your viewpoint.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Still I think most people who'd be against other players teaming up against them would do it themselves if an opportunity accidently arises.

Originally we didn't even plan to team up, just to meet on the map. That was the point of the experience. We thought the server is empty. Then they got shot and my friend asked me whether we would stiill be coming or should interfere, which I then discussed with my ally, too. We decided to go over there, but were too late anyway. It would have been a nice experience, as long as it's just done once. I'd probably be against it doing it multiple times anyway.

I think you won't understand this and continue to sit on your opinion and insist that you know better how other players experience fun.

I don't think you really mean fair here more like advantageous since in a game something isn't "fair for them" like that, it's not subjective, it's either fair or not.

My bad dude, didn't mean to say unnecessary and demeaning things after you called me an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for disagreeing with you.

I explicitly stated it was my own opinion and that the rules do allow it, just threw that in there as further explanation that I would not, in fact, team up if given the chance. The rest of your rant is pretty much just an implied strawman not only did I not do any of the things you say I'm not allowed to do, I explicitly stated that I wasn't doing that at the beginning by prefacing that it was literally just my opinion even though it is technically allowed; so you're really swinging at the air here.

It would have been a nice experience for you perhaps, I very much doubt the opposing team would have felt the same way about it. But you know, that's just me dictating how other people experience fun again. Which, by the way, is an extremely odd accusation to throw at someone; basically you're offended that I considered other people's feelings rather than just acting based on whatever I thought would be best for me in the moment.

But anyway getting back to the main point about using outside coms to find and team with a friend; allow me to respond to you by quoting you "If you don't like it, it does't really matter, and if you refuse to understand this because it doesn't fit your viewpoint.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯" It's against the rules, if you don't like it you can always refuse to see other viewpoints because it's "unfair for you" and demand "justice" from the mods and see how far that gets you.