Worst weapons actually?

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Wich one you think actually is a very bad weapon ? Make a list

[Amos Moses]

Originally posted by {FU}TheForgeryTTV:

Originally posted by Amos Moses:

sawed off springfield is by far the worst. takes 2 slots (should be 1 considering it's size compared to the uppercut or sparks pistol) and has WAY too much sway for a 2 slot weapon. if they at least reduced the sway to be comparable to an uppercut it would be a viable sidearm with okish ammo options.

True, I forgot the Springfield compact existed, especially the Springfield Compact Deadeye. Now that is the worst medium sized rifle in the game as the scope is barely usable without steady hand and it feels like an earthquake is shaking the screen.

the speed of the game makes the deadeye unusable even with steady hand. if i had time to let the scope settle, i could have made the same shot -twice- with an uppercut.

[RevolverBigBosselote]

Originally posted by Socipat:

Bomb Lance.

Bomb Lance + Dolch is super fun, but I haven't tried it since the Dolch was nerfed

[Echorion]

I agree, springfield compact is terrible. The sway makes it pretty much useless.

[RevolverBigBosselote]

Also Quad Derringer my beloved

[geordiebroon58]

only weapon i can say that is genuinly bad is the bomb lance

i think most weapons serve there own purpose may it be cheaper alternatives to a different gun or something that gives a bit of a different play style (bomb lance fits this)

[Don Montega]

Worst weapon from top to bottom with reasons why:
1. Scotfield Brawler - shortened Barrel but isn't a spitfire, always gets me killed praying it'd have higher rof

2. Knuckle knife - input detection problem causes expected punch, to stab an immolator on fire

3. heavy knife - bad swing pattern, fighting dogs with it is horror

4. Mosin - meta. put it in the trashbin to have fun

5. uppercut - see mosin @4

6. Centennial sniper - mainly due to the sniper scope being overkill and the too small ammo reserve (oh and levering sucking on it)

7. Officer and variants - due to broken camera recoil and on the carbine especially low ammo reserves and garbage ironsights

[Socipat]

Originally posted by RevolverBigBosselote:

Originally posted by Socipat:

Bomb Lance.

Bomb Lance + Dolch is super fun, but I haven't tried it since the Dolch was nerfed

I didn't say it wasn't fun. The Bomb Lance if fun as hell to play but the question was not 'most unfun weapon' it was 'worst weapons", and the Bomb Lance is the worst weapon in the game. Followed closely by the Automabutt and and than the Nitro.

[Troubleshooter]

Everything is situational... what I would pass on if I see it usually? Bornheim I guess. But i'm not good with it, seen others kick ass with that gun.

[thechariot1x]

Originally posted by {FU}TheForgeryTTV:

Berthier

It only has 3 shots and even though it has a fast reload time if you use up all shots, it's too easy to count the shots and it's easy to counter that. It's also a hassle to use with bullet-grubber (takes longer to reload completely if you only fire 1 or 2 shots), and it's terrible for ammo conservation as well without the trait (you will lose the remaining 1 or 2 shots).

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I think the main draw of the berthier is the dead eye scope, there's also the price and the cheap bayonet just for the lols but really if you are going sweaty it's the dead eye scope.

I think the vetterli is fine though. Might be outclassed by much more expensive high level guns, but you could say that about a lot of guns, most shotguns are outclassed by the crown and king etc.

[Socipat]

Originally posted by {FU}TheForgeryTTV:

Originally posted by Socipat:

I didn't say it wasn't fun. The Bomb Lance if fun as hell to play but the question was not 'most unfun weapon' it was 'worst weapons", and the Bomb Lance is the worst weapon in the game. Followed closely by the Automabutt and and than the Nitro.

At least the bomb lance can be used to kill the bosses fast. The machete can't on the other hand nor is it capable of killing hunters in one slash (to the chest).

Yes but pray you don't hit an arm or leg or even worse completely miss because if you do that player with the machete is going to kill you. The follow strike for the Bomb Lance is just to slow to be effective in PVP. Its only saving grace is most players panic if you charge them.

As for the actual bomb bolt. Three hits will take down any boss but a player at full health with bulwark will survive because the bolt gets no modifiers.

To put it bluntly, the Bomb Lance is a three slot PVE weapon for people who suffer from penis envy. And if you don't believe me than chew on this, the Bomb Lance is a hard shaft that allows you to shoot your explosive stuff all over the Bayou.

[Amos Moses]

bomb lance should really either be a 2 slot weapon (it folds afterall) or it should have alternative ammo that works like a cracked out crossbow.

[Vidokas]

nagant is not that bad. because you can use it for fanning. or dual wield
nagant precision on other hand is bad.
also springfield compact deadye

[Socipat]

Originally posted by {FU}TheForgeryTTV:

Originally posted by Socipat:

Yes but pray you don't hit an arm or leg or even worse completely miss because if you do that player with the machete is going to kill you. The follow strike for the Bomb Lance is just to slow to be effective in PVP. Its only saving grace is most players panic if you charge them.

As for the actual bomb bolt. Three hits will take down any boss but a player at full health with bulwark will survive because the bolt gets no modifiers.

To put it bluntly, the Bomb Lance is a three slot PVE weapon for people who suffer from penis envy. And if you don't believe me than chew on this, the Bomb Lance is a hard shaft that allows you to shoot your explosive stuff all over the Bayou.

The machete has a low range whereas the bomb lance's attack range is pretty high, and it can kill 2 hunters with one heavy slash if they're next to each other.

But yes, sticking someone with the harpoon isn't easy and even if that happens, there's always a chance the guy has bulwark and can live.

Otherwise, the harpoon can serve as a decent utility weapon. You can destroy doors and windows with the harpoon and set off barrels.

And how often do two Hunters stand side by side for you to kill? The chances of this happening is so rare that it should be an achievement if you were able to pull it off.

As for popping doors and setting off barrels, I already said that it was a PVE weapon and it is a fairly descent PVE weapon, its just not worth 3 slots.

[Echorion]

Originally posted by {FU}TheForgeryTTV:

Originally posted by Socipat:

And how often do two Hunters stand side by side for you to kill? The chances of this happening is so rare that it should be an achievement if you were able to pull it off.

As for popping doors and setting off barrels, I already said that it was a PVE weapon and it is a fairly descent PVE weapon, its just not worth 3 slots.

Not often I'll admit but it did happen twice. Usually people don't survive a bomb lance slash together with a teammate or not.

As of late though, I just knife rush people and it worked somehow thus if I had a bomb lance, it would had worked the same.

And I'll have to agree that the bomb lance does need a rework somehow.

Bomblance can one hit from pretty far though and you can't miss with it like you can with a knife.
It's the easiest weapon to get a guaranteed kill with in the game.

But it's mainly a PvE weapon not much of a PvP one. I think the combat axe and it's medium slot is worse.

I've actually got a pretty solid kill rate with the bomblance, compared to many other guns in the game though. Maybe I am just really good with it and positioning for it idk but I wouldn't call it one of the worst myself.

As for the Berthier I agree. I think it's a good gun, deadeye scope is nice too. I actually really like it's 3 rounds myself because it has a quick reload after you use 3.
Thing is, it's expensive.
Other long ammo is also, so I pretty much never use long ammo. The Bertier is the only one I use from time to time because at least it's not super expensive.
If they ever raise it's price I may never use long ammo again, I already never touch uppercut, mosin, lebel anymore.....

[Echorion]

Originally posted by Vidokas:

nagant is not that bad. because you can use it for fanning. or dual wield
nagant precision on other hand is bad.
also springfield compact deadye

Nagant Precision is a decent little headshot clicker, especially with HV ammo.
The recoil makes it useless for anything not a headshot though.

Springfield compact deadeye is actual trash though. Even the non deadeye you can at least run with dumdum and still hit things at most combat ranges just not super far out- but the deadeye even with steady trait it's terrible.