Crossbow Nerf ?

[Ivan_133]

Did i miss something or got the crossbow nerfed ?
I had this 3 Times today, dierct hit in the Chest from 15 Meters, bleeding but no kill

[Barnabas Sackett]

Probably not ... this game can be weird somethimes... that's normal for this game;)

Yesterday for example I missed five times in a row an almost motionless, crouchiong enemy, who try disarm door trap. I had two pistols Caldwell Pax and shot from about 1.5 meters, aiming fairly calmly without panic! I'm sure I was aiming well enough that I should hit enemy several times. Even my girlfriend, who sometimes watches me play this game and knows the game quite well, couldn't believe this situation.
I was aiming at the center of the body every time, at a motionless target, from ~1.5 m and ... no hits? Seriously?

Recently I shot an enemy running at me in a straight line, from a similar distance (`1,5 m) with a (long) pump-action shotgun in the upper torso and he survived and I had to shoot him a second time to kill him when he passed me by in panic.
Other times, I kill with one shot from the hip with short versions of shotguns from a much longer distance, and I'm surprised myself that one shot was enough from such a distance ... usually shotguns only hurts enemies from such a distance.

Another time, I noticed an enemy crouched (motionless) in the yard of one of the locations (the distance was such that the enemy was about 5cm on the screen while crouching), I aimed his head perfectly (without haste) and shot (short Winfield)... he started to run away panicked and... alive;) The distance was so short that there could not be any invisible textures of obstacles in front of him, etc.;)

I also had a similar situations with the crossbow, which is why I mainly use purchased ammunition against players. Ordinary bolts can do a good job too, but sometimes they fail me too. With many shotguns, the situation can still be fixed, but if the crossbow fails and the enemy will track you down... there is a problem.

[Haruspex]

Probably limb. Hate RNG? lessen it by using a shotbolt.

[II Atroz II]

Yeah unfortunately this game loves getting arm shots when aiming at the chest because how the player model holds the guns. In EFT one of the best attachments years ago was the angled foregrip and it was for that exact reason, it distorted the forward arm so much it protected the chest. If it's something that seems to happen to you a lot or you are annoyed by it, just do what Jester said and switch to shot bolt. Hit them anywhere on the body and they die so you don't have to deal with those ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ arm blocking chest shots.

[James]

Originally posted by II Atroz II:

Yeah unfortunately this game loves getting arm shots when aiming at the chest because how the player model holds the guns. In EFT one of the best attachments years ago was the angled foregrip and it was for that exact reason, it distorted the forward arm so much it protected the chest. If it's something that seems to happen to you a lot or you are annoyed by it, just do what Jester said and switch to shot bolt. Hit them anywhere on the body and they die so you don't have to deal with those ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ arm blocking chest shots.

I thought shots in tarkov could hit and damage multiple body parts.

[II Atroz II]

Originally posted by James:

Originally posted by II Atroz II:

Yeah unfortunately this game loves getting arm shots when aiming at the chest because how the player model holds the guns. In EFT one of the best attachments years ago was the angled foregrip and it was for that exact reason, it distorted the forward arm so much it protected the chest. If it's something that seems to happen to you a lot or you are annoyed by it, just do what Jester said and switch to shot bolt. Hit them anywhere on the body and they die so you don't have to deal with those ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ arm blocking chest shots.

I thought shots in tarkov could hit and damage multiple body parts.

They can but the arm being in front of the shot would protect the Thorax which is one of two locations if it takes too much damage you will immediately die, whereas the other body parts will go black and transfer the damage to the rest of the body. So the angled foregrip would put the arm in front of the thorax and protect it from a 1-2 hit kill. It got fixed years ago by BSG though, but it was pretty broken and the angled foregrip was the only thing people ran back in the day.

[James]

Originally posted by II Atroz II:

Originally posted by James:

I thought shots in tarkov could hit and damage multiple body parts.

They can but the arm being in front of the shot would protect the Thorax which is one of two locations if it takes too much damage you will immediately die, whereas the other body parts will go black and transfer the damage to the rest of the body. So the angled foregrip would put the arm in front of the thorax and protect it from a 1-2 hit kill. It got fixed years ago by BSG though, but it was pretty broken and the angled foregrip was the only thing people ran back in the day.

No, I mean like that m61 round will do 70 damage to the arm and THEN hit thorax for another 70.

[Menschenfresser]

i hit a guy in 10 meters with nitro-shredder and he still runs away and survive :D

[II Atroz II]

Originally posted by James:

Originally posted by II Atroz II:

They can but the arm being in front of the shot would protect the Thorax which is one of two locations if it takes too much damage you will immediately die, whereas the other body parts will go black and transfer the damage to the rest of the body. So the angled foregrip would put the arm in front of the thorax and protect it from a 1-2 hit kill. It got fixed years ago by BSG though, but it was pretty broken and the angled foregrip was the only thing people ran back in the day.

No, I mean like that m61 round will do 70 damage to the arm and THEN hit thorax for another 70.

No the most the round can do is 70 so the arm would tank some and then the thorax would tank some. Or the arm would tank all of it.

https://clips.twitch.tv/RenownedSincereClintDBstyle

It's a twitch clip of LVNDMARK talking about it and he shows a picture at 0:38 if you want to see what it looked like.

[Darth_Angeal]

Hitreg is a mess. It´s quite often like a coinflip if you hit or not. And in the next moment it´s a coinflip if you hit a deadly zone or just an arm. That´s why nitro and definately crossbow thx to a bunch of gamechanges lost a lot of their competitive factors.

[James]

Originally posted by II Atroz II:

Originally posted by James:

No, I mean like that m61 round will do 70 damage to the arm and THEN hit thorax for another 70.

No the most the round can do is 70 so the arm would tank some and then the thorax would tank some. Or the arm would tank all of it.

https://clips.twitch.tv/RenownedSincereClintDBstyle

It's a twitch clip of LVNDMARK talking about it and he shows a picture at 0:38 if you want to see what it looked like.

hmmm, that doesn't seem to be what Veritas found in his most recent video on the topic

[II Atroz II]

Originally posted by James:

Originally posted by II Atroz II:

No the most the round can do is 70 so the arm would tank some and then the thorax would tank some. Or the arm would tank all of it.

https://clips.twitch.tv/RenownedSincereClintDBstyle

It's a twitch clip of LVNDMARK talking about it and he shows a picture at 0:38 if you want to see what it looked like.

hmmm, that doesn't seem to be what Veritas found in his most recent video on the topic

Okay? Good for him? If you already know everything then why are you asking me?

[Der Guteste TTV]

Crossbow doesn't have limbpen, so yea, not killing happens.
Velocity is also pretty bad for scoring precise hits.

[James]

Originally posted by II Atroz II:

Originally posted by James:

hmmm, that doesn't seem to be what Veritas found in his most recent video on the topic

Okay? Good for him? If you already know everything then why are you asking me?

is that a real question?

[Kenpatchi]

Originally posted by Ivan_133:

Did i miss something or got the crossbow nerfed ?
I had this 3 Times today, dierct hit in the Chest from 15 Meters, bleeding but no kill

YEAH THEY DID NERF IT SADLY WITH OUT SAYING ANYTHING

[BlackWolf9988]

Originally posted by Kenpatchi:

Originally posted by Ivan_133:

Did i miss something or got the crossbow nerfed ?
I had this 3 Times today, dierct hit in the Chest from 15 Meters, bleeding but no kill

YEAH THEY DID NERF IT SADLY WITH OUT SAYING ANYTHING

you revived a 2 year old post for some reason, they literally didnt touch the weapon at all since it came out except maybe the ammo count for the handcrossbow.