Thoughts about current state of the game

[ShouteN]

I love hunt, one of the best and unique games of this decade, but here two biggest things which are driving this game down is simply:

1) not working mm. First of all 1-2* does not exist pretty much, so most players are somewhere in between 3-6*. New players most of the time struggle a lot and i bet a lot of them quit, because to hit 3-4 stars is soo damn easy, after that they are fighting hard stuck vets with 1k hour. They are meh players, but they have a lot of game knowledge which is very important thing, even aim is not that imporant here. Second thing matchmaking does not even trying to be fair. How long does it takes to find a match in peek hours? 5 sec? This is a bad thing. Even in 5x to Xx more populated games matchmaking takes up to 5 mins, in high elo even 10-15mins to get you a match.

2) I repeat myself, but biggest focus on kda is such a bad thing. This is why we have such a campy playstyle in higher elo. Shame, because hunt have a very unique and good moments in real fights. Played 6 games today and in every single game everyone was camping and if get down once all teams just extracting, why? Because of the kda. Its like a culture. Most of the players does not care about main objective bounty or hunters, the only thing is kda. This leads even in random search for teammates many freaking times i have to deal with dodgers because if for some reason you get a player with only 200 kills even with a good kda, someone quit because bro i didint get a decent teammate i want my team formed with 3+ kda and 10k kills players so they can carry me. Jezz. I remember when i was fairly new ive had to deal with the dodgers like so many times till i get a team which atleast wanted to play. I bet now things goes even worse for new guys.

So in conclusion better MM and more action could lead this game to the skies and a bigger popularity. And you can disagree with me, but i am 100% sure fixing just these things could be very succesful for hunt future, but most likely will not happen sadly.

[{TOXIC} HuntDad]

Цитата допису ShouteN:

Цитата допису {YS} HuntDad:

There are A LOT of CASUAL players whining on this thread. KD/A is here to stay and the reason is that this ISN'T a casual game. It's always improving and i'm glad they stuck to the KD/A portion so strongly. I love having been a day 1 EA player having an average of 0.71 for YEARS and then literally learning what I was doing wrong and now, 9 months later, am at a solid 1.25 and growing. Learn movement and practice with different weapons to get better. If you don't like the current state of the game find a new one. Animal Crossing i hear is nice and soft, or theres a new pokemon coming out. stop complaining and watch people like Gunsmackk to learn new ways to get better at this one.

So you are basicly learned to camp and you call yourself a profesional? Or what? Kda is the thing why everyone play like a rats. And playing as a rat is neither pro neither hardcore. Its just waste of time. By the way crytek could keep kda as a private thing. It does not matter much, just remove it from public profiles and kda farmers gone, all other community will be encouraged to play game not just sit in the bush for 30 minutes.

Also i would call campers a casuals even more because you have no place in any other fps, here you are welcome 100%.

And i will add if we do not have public kda people will be encouraged to play fun loadouts more, not just pure meta in high mmr. Now everyone running lebels/mosins and uppercuts/dolces. Thats it.

What in my entire post talking about MOVEMENT told you i was all about camping? lol. I get a ♥♥♥♥ ton of kills by movement and pushing plebs

[ShouteN]

Цитата допису {YS} HuntDad:

Цитата допису ShouteN:

So you are basicly learned to camp and you call yourself a profesional? Or what? Kda is the thing why everyone play like a rats. And playing as a rat is neither pro neither hardcore. Its just waste of time. By the way crytek could keep kda as a private thing. It does not matter much, just remove it from public profiles and kda farmers gone, all other community will be encouraged to play game not just sit in the bush for 30 minutes.

Also i would call campers a casuals even more because you have no place in any other fps, here you are welcome 100%.

And i will add if we do not have public kda people will be encouraged to play fun loadouts more, not just pure meta in high mmr. Now everyone running lebels/mosins and uppercuts/dolces. Thats it.

What in my entire post talking about MOVEMENT told you i was all about camping? lol. I get a ♥♥♥♥ ton of kills by movement and pushing plebs

Alright, thats fine if you play like that. But i am just tired of campers, all games ive played today and yesterday no one is pushing everyone is camping. The "best" game ive played today 4 teams in the same place no one is fighting each other and just sitting 200-300 meters away from compound, each side is watched, so we couldnt even go outside with the bounty because if you open the doors someone will insta shoot. Is this hunt? No. This is some kind of bush wookie patience game which took 40 minutes to finish. Its not even a tactical game, nor hardcore anymore. I am happy if you still have some fun in your games, meanwhile large portion of community is not very happy how hunt is developing and i do this conclusion because ive talked with many people in discord while we were playing. Same goes with discussion here.

[Sweets]

I greatly agree kda is so bad for this game especially with the way matches play out you could just get knock off by a stray round or from a sniper in 1 hit and ppl just.
Also kda shaming is a real thing

[{TOXIC} HuntDad]

Цитата допису June:

I greatly agree kda is so bad for this game especially with the way matches play out you could just get knock off by a stray round or from a sniper in 1 hit and ppl just.
Also kda shaming is a real thing

Need a safe space?

[Badass_Ben]

Цитата допису El Donko (TTV=Cringe):

Цитата допису {YS} HuntDad:

There are A LOT of CASUAL players whining on this thread. KD/A is here to stay and the reason is that this ISN'T a casual game. It's always improving and i'm glad they stuck to the KD/A portion so strongly. I love having been a day 1 EA player having an average of 0.71 for YEARS and then literally learning what I was doing wrong and now, 9 months later, am at a solid 1.25 and growing. Learn movement and practice with different weapons to get better. If you don't like the current state of the game find a new one. Animal Crossing i hear is nice and soft, or theres a new pokemon coming out. stop complaining and watch people like Gunsmackk to learn new ways to get better at this one.

Problem is that hardcore games have terrible player retention because of the huge learning curve, disregard casuals and the game will die

ARMA is doing fine

[Neurotic Panda]

EA should buy hunt and introduce loot boxes.

also.

Bushes are OP.

[Tizzalicious]

Im pretty sure that a lot of the past changements in this game were made because people are so fixed to KDA. A good example is night and fog got reduced becasue people cant see and have to cry if they get shot. (THIS IS SO PATHETIC) You have same situations at day time. But there is no reason to cry if you cant loose on KDA.
An other pathetic thing is, playing with lower settings rewards you. So the whole effort people invested in this game (the devs) went puff...just because a small playerbase has to play this game as a casual random shooter.

[Sweets]

Цитата допису {YS} HuntDad:

Цитата допису June:

I greatly agree kda is so bad for this game especially with the way matches play out you could just get knock off by a stray round or from a sniper in 1 hit and ppl just.
Also kda shaming is a real thing

Need a safe space?

heh?

[ShouteN]

Цитата допису Tizzalicious:

Im pretty sure that a lot of the past changements in this game were made because people are so fixed to KDA. A good example is night and fog got reduced becasue people cant see and have to cry if they get shot. (THIS IS SO PATHETIC) You have same situations at day time. But there is no reason to cry if you cant loose on KDA.
An other pathetic thing is, playing with lower settings rewards you. So the whole effort people invested in this game (the devs) went puff...just because a small playerbase has to play this game as a casual random shooter.

Oh yes and this. They are calling, because this is a pvp game, but this means i care for my kda in game. In other games people are asking for night maps, because they are not focused on kda and its fun to play with a difficult condisions, like night, rain or fog.

[Brahmanfire]

If anything there should be MORE statistics so people can nerd out the way they like. Gun stats, acuracy, efficiency, avg. time in bayou, average time to kill, most consecutive games without death, average time spent in bushes(TheCampersRatio), Top 10 hunters killed and killed by... all sorts of things. Adding more information simply gives more people chance to focus on the particulars that interest them. Don't let KDA become the next victim of the endlessly butt-hurt 'cancel culture'.

Participation trophies are not given at the end of a Bounty Hunt match.

[TheJuzzEST]

lol , and it tell's me that im 4-5 stras but im shi* in this game , i feel like im 1-3 stars player but fck it , some games good some bad

[⛧Kairos⛧]

Current state of hunt free hunter dual pistol meta.

[Studens Ludens #GameStudies]

is MM really based on KDA though?

i get teammates that are like 0,7 while i am 1.16. sounds like a big difference to me. and yes i know 1.16 isnt high. i suck at aiming. i know that.

also...again...people have no idea what camping is. i rarely encounter actual campers that hide in one place for 10mins or wait at the extraction point. almost never happens to me. how do you guys actually know whether someone hides in one place for 10min+?
just as a reminder: sneaking isn't camping.

[ShouteN]

Цитата допису Brahmanfire:

If anything there should be MORE statistics so people can nerd out the way they like. Gun stats, acuracy, efficiency, avg. time in bayou, average time to kill, most consecutive games without death, average time spent in bushes(TheCampersRatio), Top 10 hunters killed and killed by... all sorts of things. Adding more information simply gives more people chance to focus on the particulars that interest them. Don't let KDA become the next victim of the endlessly butt-hurt 'cancel culture'.

Participation trophies are not given at the end of a Bounty Hunt match.

Well, too late everyone care about kda and only kda. No one even care about mmr, vise versa most of the people want to derank to have an opportunity to kill new or less skilled players, or just to have more fun in their games. Same with me ive had fun in 3-4 stars range, but i was quickly thrown to 5 stars and here all camp fest begins to shine.

Цитата допису Ginger Freeman:

is MM really based on KDA though?

i get teammates that are like 0,7 while i am 1.16. sounds like a big difference to me. and yes i know 1.16 isnt high. i suck at aiming. i know that.

also...again...people have no idea what camping is. i rarely encounter actual campers that hide in one place for 10mins or wait at the extraction point. almost never happens to me. how do you guys actually know whether someone hides in one place for 10min+?
just as a reminder: sneaking isn't camping.

Because they sucked first, but their current progression a.k.a. kda is fine and they are at the same boat as you are. Also if you are playing on 3-4* you will not notice camp fest so badly. 5 to 6 stars all the "fun" is here. And no one talking about sneaking or playing slow, i am talking about real camping, real kda farming. Basicly you will not meet these people if you are at 3-4*, because they have way more kills then deaths and because of their high current kda, most of them are in 5-6 stars. Here you will meet mosin nagant sniper guys with spitz ammo shooting you from map corner, with a regular rifle you will not be able to even see them. And all they do kill one or two players and extract or alt f4. Rushing in this level is forgotten thing, most of the people dont even rush you in 3v1 situation, because one of them might end up dead, so they still continue their bush wookie style. Its not 100% cases but these things lately become a norm and sticks into hunt culture.