"Wallhack" mechanic really kills this game

[Nihil]

I'm fairly new to the game and was wondering why are so many people complaining about campers. Since usually campers are the easiest thing to counter in PvP games.

But in this game, now after some games I see the issue. Sadly the game is highly HIGHLY encouraging not to engage, but to sit tight and wait because of the "easy win" mechanic which is the wallhack. People are encouraged to just wait till someone is killing the boss and picking up the bounty, because from that point the only thing to do is either go close enough to the closest extraction to have a view, but far enough to not be in the 5 sec wallhack ability range of the bounty bearer. But every other player can easily spot the bounty bearer. So you just need a relative fast RPM weapon, or if you had godly aim, a lever action gun and easy win. So people are just sitting tight in major easy to predictable spots to get a kill.

I would suggest to the devs to get rid off the wallhack abilities on both side. Yes, it should have SOME risk (SOME...not only risks) to have the bounty. But i think a fair solution would be to map the movement of the bounty hoarder on the map. Mark it with an "X" wherever that person alerts the crows or any zombie ect. That should be more than enough. But with the current state....all the games i have been in were quiet as hell.

[Discotooth™]

there is absolutely no wallhack mechanic in this game.

[Nihil]

Originally posted by Bacon Maker™:

there is absolutely no wallhack mechanic in this game.

Than what do you call the "I will either see you exactly thanks to the lightning strikes pointing on you or by glowing orange through walls" mechanic? In my very first two matches i killed 2 people with the help of that wallhack and extracted successfully. And I'm not a pro player by far.

[Unknown]

The lightning strike gives a general idea in the real world (the base is very wide), more specific in the map, but I'd hardly call that a "wall hack

Dark sight boost is the orange sight you're referring to. You have to be practically ontop of them to land a reliable headshot through the wall. You also only get 5 seconds each of it. If someone has it, (and you will know if they do), don't be stupid and sit still behind a thin wall.

[Unknown]

Originally posted by Horror:

Go up to a ladder, hit jump, then interact, then jump again. Repeat this process until you phase into the ladder. might take a minute or 2, but you will get it. Then, by walking straight you can walk through any wall and shoot out the other side, with no one seeing. Congrats, you now have wallhacks, no 3rd party program needed
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been in the game for months now apparently

Had to check this out, that's crazy. Looks like a major pain to pull off. But definitely game breaking when you do

[Postmates Malone]

People with the bounty only get 5 seconds of scan, and other players can hear you use it if they're close enough. It's not a wallhack, and you shouldn't be staying still or out of cover enough that getting scanned once leads to you getting killed.

People chasing the bounty get shown a very broad area where the bounty could be. A whole building being highlighted isn't helpful when you're already in front of the building and you need to determine which window to go through. The bounty team has a lot of ways to leave the boss building if you're not watching from within scan range, and once they're out they can just pop a stamina shot and run all the way to the extraction without being caught.

Your suggestion doesn't work because good players already track the bounty by the sounds they make alerting crows or killing grunts. It's not hard.

[Badass_Ben]

Originally posted by Unknown:

The lightning strike gives a general idea in the real world (the base is very wide), more specific in the map, but I'd hardly call that a "wall hack

Dark sight boost is the orange sight you're referring to. You have to be practically ontop of them to land a reliable headshot through the wall. You also only get 5 seconds each of it. If someone has it, (and you will know if they do), don't be stupid and sit still behind a thin wall.

Eh, with experience you learn pretty much to within 10m where the enemy is, off of the lightning

[Unknown]

Originally posted by Badass_Ben:

Originally posted by Unknown:

The lightning strike gives a general idea in the real world (the base is very wide), more specific in the map, but I'd hardly call that a "wall hack

Dark sight boost is the orange sight you're referring to. You have to be practically ontop of them to land a reliable headshot through the wall. You also only get 5 seconds each of it. If someone has it, (and you will know if they do), don't be stupid and sit still behind a thin wall.

Eh, with experience you learn pretty much to within 10m where the enemy is, off of the lightning

Yeah, but I wouldn't call something "wallhacks" if you can't get an easy headshot off of it. Like I'm fine with a 10m "he's somewhere in here"

[Discotooth™]

Originally posted by Nihil:

Originally posted by Bacon Maker™:

there is absolutely no wallhack mechanic in this game.

Than what do you call the "I will either see you exactly thanks to the lightning strikes pointing on you or by glowing orange through walls" mechanic? In my very first two matches i killed 2 people with the help of that wallhack and extracted successfully. And I'm not a pro player by far.

I call it darksight / scan, and it isn't wallhacks. You cannot even shoot while you can see where they are, and even if you can that person has to be sitting close and motionless (where they can clearly hear you scanning) to get a headshot off of it.

The darksight orange blob doesn't even sit exactly where you are, its just a general indicator of your position. Without any intended disrespect, if you are dying purely because of darksight this is a skill issue. (You are sitting still and not moving)

[Evillo]

actually sometimes you can get the exact location if you only do a really fast spotting wile having the bonty you can use it to wall bang at leas one guy if luky

[Discotooth™]

Originally posted by Nihil:

Originally posted by Bacon Maker™:

there is absolutely no wallhack mechanic in this game.

Than what do you call the "I will either see you exactly thanks to the lightning strikes pointing on you or by glowing orange through walls" mechanic? In my very first two matches i killed 2 people with the help of that wallhack and extracted successfully. And I'm not a pro player by far.

Again no disrespect, but "In your very first 2 matches" you are likely playing against other players who are new and have absolutely no idea how to even play a shooter nevertheless hunt, Some new players don't even understand what the bounty is or what you can do with it. You are telling us you've shot a couple of noobs through a wall with random luck because darksight said they were through the wall.

[BlackWolf9988]

There is a reason why they added dark sight into the game. You think the camping now is bad? Before they added it people used to not do the boss at all because you were at such a massive disadvantage.

[BlackWolf9988]

Just look at how bad extract campers in tarkov are for a comparison.

[Evillo]

Originally posted by {FU}TheForgeryTTV:

You have a lot to learn about this game if you're new.

Dark sight boost isn't really wall-hack as it has a limited range. If you're far away enough, bounty carriers cannot see you. Some players don't even want to pick up the bounty because they get permanently marked on the map themselves.

You also said you only did 2 matches thus far. This game has matchmaking, and it even puts you with other new players the moment you start a match. Those players are also not skilled either. Once you keep playing, you will run into more players.

You really shouldn't jump into conclusions that fast, especially if you are brand new.

the new player thing is broken at least in europe or they should at least put 100 kills before you can access regular games

[Life's a Party, Rock Your Body]

youre in for a rude awakening once youre out of the new player pool kiddie

[Qo]

The meta in this game is actually rushing and not camping. :D