To all people complaining about "campers" and 60m Timer.

[Dexta]

You seem to misunderstand the core concept of Hunt. Its not a battle royale game. There is no circle that tightens around the map. You can leave any time you want. Your main objective is to get the bounty and extract, and you have complete freedom of how you can go about. Killing other players IS NOT the objective. Hunt uses other human players as difficult obstacles for the actual objective. Now you may want to only fight other players, and guess what Hunt does allow you to do that. What it doesnt do, is cater every single time to your playstyle. If you cant comprehend or accept that there are literally dozens of FPS games that would cater to you.

Your "criticisms" are as wrong as going to Rockstar and complaining that GTA has too much driving around and not enough shooting, trying to turn in into Gears of War, completely misunderstanding the point of the game.

60 minutes is fine. Your job is to get the bounty. How fast the match is predicated on your ability to take it and leave. Superb players need 15 minutes because it takes them that long to steamroll everyone else take it and extract. If you dont have the skills to take it you have the absolute freedom to leave the mach. Same goes for camping. Noone owes you a playstyle. If you cant take the bounty change tactics or leave the game. Jump into the next one that may play out in the way you want it to.


In the end of the day you can either accept Hunt for what it is, or failing that, spare yourself the stress of playing something you dont actually like, go try out some other games. Maybe you'll like them better. Maybe you'll find new appreciation for Hunt and come back.

But understand this: Whining about campers has been going for 3 years.
60m timer is the staple for 3 years.
Those things wont change.
It is what it is.

[Barry MaCockiner]

Well said, and imo 100% correct.

[christörhead]

Yep. :)

Thx. 100% my thoughts.

[Lord Mordack]

I personally am already on the edge of just stopping the game because of all the spam-meta nowadays.

When I got Hunt back in the day it was a slow, tactical FPS game. And since then they've added multiple different spammy weapons, perks to make the game faster, glowing clues, darksight boost, etc.

If they shorten the game time and make it even faster paced then this game in my mind is a similar game to all the CoD's, Fortnite's and so on. And those are not the games I want to play. I got Hunt because it was a unique slow paced game.

And before anyone here comes with their assumptions about my gaming style; No, I am not a shotgun player. Never have been and never will be.
No, I do not just sit in the boss lair with the bounty. I do try to push out when the time is right.

[GRU-Vy]

Agreed

[FrappeWarrior]

i only disagree with first paragraph. Hunt is a PvP game with PvE elements. the objectives are there as means for players to gather and have something to fight over. same goes for everything else from sound traps to AI its there to enhance the PvP experience. the devs have stated this themselves.

that said the rest of the post is correct. this is not a BR game, you can extract any time you like. pushing a boss lair or not or camping outside or whatever is all up to you. how you do it is also up to you. like it or not "camping" is part of the game and the game itself gives you all the necessary tools to counter it, how you use them (or not) is up to you.

so stop asking the game and other players to adjust to you and start thinking how you can adjust to the game and outplay other players.

[Crotch]

I agree, too. This game is meant as some kind of sandbox. Do whatever you want to win. Rush, camp, ambush, lure people in traps, whatever. It's meant to be fun and, at least in my opinion, the diverse playstyles is what makes this game fun. If people don't like it then there are lots of other games they might like more.

I remember a match where my teammate sat near Maw, watching 3 trios a Blanc Brinery duke it out over the bounty. Meanwhile I was running around the map for 30 minutes (Yes. 30 minutes.) gathering any traps I could find to turn the way to the extraction (between Maw and Iron Works) into a damn minefield. Best thing: That really did work. Got a double-bounty, 2 kills and a lot of salt.

[Z3pheeR]

Disagreeing here means being marked as "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Cod player", "runner and gunner" and all kinds of bs bad players throw around to justify themselves, but I will disagree regardless.
This game is NOT a PvE with PvP elements, this is a PvP with PvE elements. That means that you have to fight against other players in order to get the most out of the experience, as it should be. The PvE and the bosses are there as a way to meet other players. I'm not saying that you should rush every clue, get to the boss, mindlessly running around in the process, but there are some extremes that shouldn't be possible (like sitting still for 20 minutes in some random bush or forest or whatever hoping for someone to come by). 45 minutes timer did help with those issues in my experience, especially in some compounds like Chapel or Blanchett, while it did not impact normal matches at all.
And don't even try to "just extract" me, cause that's literally the worst excuse ever made for a videogame. You're telling me the way to deal with campers is letting them win. Also, nades work only under certain circumnstances and won't get the job done against GOOD campers.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally posted by Dexta:

Noone owes you a playstyle.

Best phrase I've heard in gaming in a long time.

[vukotlak]

You can sit for 20 minutes in a bush when the match goes 45 mins... What am i missing here?

You can sit as long in the bush as the match goes. It doesen't matter if it 30,45 or 60 minutes. A camper will camp. It makes it even worse if you make matches shorter. Cause they don't need to sit so long for something to happen.

Btw how do you know that the guy who just shot you was camping since 20 minutes. Maybe he just saw or heard you and hide in a bush. I have done hundrets of kills that way. And every single one of those guys could had thought i was sitting in that bush since 20 minutes. While in reality i just positioned myself there.

[FrappeWarrior]

Originally posted by The Inseminator:

Disagreeing here means being marked as "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Cod player", "runner and gunner" and all kinds of bs bad players throw around to justify themselves, but I will disagree regardless.
This game is NOT a PvE with PvP elements, this is a PvP with PvE elements. That means that you have to fight against other players in order to get the most out of the experience, as it should be. The PvE and the bosses are there as a way to meet other players. I'm not saying that you should rush every clue, get to the boss, mindlessly running around in the process, but there are some extremes that shouldn't be possible (like sitting still for 20 minutes in some random bush or forest or whatever hoping for someone to come by). 45 minutes timer did help with those issues in my experience, especially in some compounds like Chapel or Blanchett, while it did not impact normal matches at all.
And don't even try to "just extract" me, cause that's literally the worst excuse ever made for a videogame. You're telling me the way to deal with campers is letting them win. Also, nades work only under certain circumnstances and won't get the job done against GOOD campers.

personally im not branding you anything. you can go guns blazing or crouch walk the entire match, hunt can accommodate both. the issue here is that

A) you cant possibly know how long he has been sitting in that bush. it could have been 20 mins but it could just as likely been 20 secs since he heard you triggering those crows (or whatever just an example) and decided to ambush you

B)Honestly how often do you come across people camping random bushes in the map? its a pretty big map for someone to be camping a random bush and for people to keep running into him

so timer has really nothing to do with it because in reality you dont really know how other players are playing you are just assuming and its really not that common.

the "just extract" goes to people who are afraid or dont know how to push a boss lair and just expect the other team to run out in the open so they can have a shootout. there is risk and reward here. if you dont want to risk it just extract and dont go around demanding that the game and the other players change to whatever style suits you.

yes nades are very helpful along with all explosives, hive bombs, flash bombs, decoy fuses even the freaking chokes can help you spot a camper or eliminate a possible camping spot. dark sight will let you know if there are other players around bosses...you got all the tools you need just dont expect them to with the fight for you and dont expect to win every fight

[Mizore]

I mean i agree with ya. But still 45 min was enough. Enough time for slow players and not to long for fast players.
And if we talk about accepting all playstyles. Im more like a faster player (sometimes in specific situations i play slowly), so i burn bodys to get them "campers" or "slow players" whatever we call them to move - people who complain about this should accept this too. Just saying, i dont know if you are one of those people, but i think it is fair to point that out.

In my opinion the biggest problem of Hunt based on playstyle are these kda players or people who are to scared to lose their hunter. Random teammates who just run away with the bounty while the other two fight is just a big bad feeling in this game. And this is not that rare. They dont even try.

[† Living Dead Girl †]

Absolutely agree with OP.

[Civilian Squirrel Operator™]

Originally posted by Jackie Chan:

Campers no issue for me never have been threat
Just wallbang them it’s just too ez

Do you stomp a board and the other end hits them in the face? Like the real Jackie Chan? Sounds amazing. In related news, you can't shoot through every wall. I know you know that.

[ᚱᚢᚾᛖ]

True words... so and not otherwise!

[Velcoro]

Dude, that's a PVP game, not a Coop PVE game., if You like PVE games just go to play left for dead or games alike. The goal of this game is to have hunters gather at the boss lair and fight each other.