Why is Crossbow Worse than Bow?

[Meatball]

Crossbows have ALWAYS been known to be more powerful, its physics dude. But nay, In a firefight with bow VS. crossbow, we both fire at same time, both chest hits, I die he doesnt...

[AKOOMA]

True, IMO the crossbow has always been fun but extremely meh.

The bow seems to one shot the entire body above the waist except for the arms obviously.

Crossbow even if u hit the upper chest at range it wont drop someone instantly.

[Deggo]

Crossbows have ALWAYS been known to be more powerful

A crossbow that can be spanned by hands without any spanning mechanisms like winches is not going to be more powerful than a bow, simply because of the short draw length.

[DarkKrieg]

The only way the crossbow would have more power is if you had to stop, put the thing between your legs, and draw the string back.

Any crossbow you can reset with one hand while running is not going to be much more powerful than a regular bow.

[Meatball]

Publicado originalmente por uDeggo:

Crossbows have ALWAYS been known to be more powerful

A crossbow that can be spanned by hands without any spanning mechanisms like winches is not going to be more powerful than a bow, simply because of the short draw length.

Publicado originalmente por DarkKrieg:

The only way the crossbow would have more power is if you had to stop, put the thing between your legs, and draw the string back.

Any crossbow you can reset with one hand while running is not going to be much more powerful than a regular bow.

Obviously you guys are idiots... Crossbows, regardless of how you charge them are generally more powerful. Now, in hunt we have a hand drawn Crossbow, and a hunting bow. A hunting bow is made of wood, the crossbow's "bow" is metal, they are roughly the similar size in length, maybe the hunting bow is slightly longer. What makes you think WOOD throwing a light arrow is going to be better at killing than METAL throwing a heavy bolt.

A war bow, (on avg taller than a man) is WAY longer and definitely stronger than a crossbow of any kind. Hunt doesnt have this, it has a small hunting bow. It doesnt matter if its hand drawn, first of all, the crossbow in the game has extra ropes which would aide in drawing. A piece metal springing back is WAY faster than wood, and stronger.

Do some research, people on Youtube like Skalagrim, LindyBeige, and Shadiversity all make medeival weaponry videos and explain these types of weapons.

[Deggo]

Publicado originalmente por Meatball:

Obviously you guys are idiots... Crossbows, regardless of how you charge them are generally more powerful. Now, in hunt we have a hand drawn Crossbow, and a hunting bow. A hunting bow is made of wood, the crossbow's "bow" is metal, they are roughly the similar size in length, maybe the hunting bow is slightly longer. What makes you think WOOD throwing a light arrow is going to be better at killing than METAL throwing a heavy bolt.

A war bow, (on avg taller than a man) is WAY longer and definitely stronger than a crossbow of any kind. Hunt doesnt have this, it has a small hunting bow. It doesnt matter if its hand drawn, first of all, the crossbow in the game has extra ropes which would aide in drawing. A piece metal springing back is WAY faster than wood, and stronger.

Do some research, people on Youtube like Skalagrim, LindyBeige, and Shadiversity all make medeival weaponry videos and explain these types of weapons.

Yes, and these same people will tell you that a hand-drawn crossbow is not going to be more powerful than a wooden bow because of draw length and the little draw weight (because it is hand-drawn). Where do you think the energy comes from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghoVmc12vEs&t=296s
(Keep in mind he is also talking about a *windlass* crossbow)

[Bryan=0101]

the crossbow isn't worse than the bow in this game, ever tried the shotbolt?

[ice]

Publicado originalmente por Meatball:

Crossbows have ALWAYS been known to be more powerful, its physics dude. But nay, In a firefight with bow VS. crossbow, we both fire at same time, both chest hits, I die he doesnt...

explain physics in a game where people come back from the dead and zombies walk around

[GRU-Vy]

I think the crossbow would be alot more dangerous if it didnt have those horrible sights. If you gave the bow same stats as crossbow, the bow would still be a better weapon because the sights are less cluttered.

[Sunny]

Bow is only stronger because it has better sights and doesn't need a perk to fire fast.
(ignoring the fact it's medium slot. Just comparing killing power)

[Oobaneko]

Publicado originalmente por iceink:

Publicado originalmente por Meatball:

Crossbows have ALWAYS been known to be more powerful, its physics dude. But nay, In a firefight with bow VS. crossbow, we both fire at same time, both chest hits, I die he doesnt...

explain physics in a game where people come back from the dead and zombies walk around

Return to anime. Sci-fi can have even dragons with magic, if it's scientificly explained.

[Oobaneko]

Crossbow in terms of raw power are stronger. Plus, it have much more powerful ammo: explosive and shotbolt. It can be released anytime, so face-to-face meet are on crossbow side, so as mobility on crossbow's side too, cause you can react on enemy faster, without delays.

[Tyrant]

The standard crossbow just needs more effective range, it acts more of a high skill cap shotgun than anything else right now.

But yeah idk OP, as a crossbow main, i dont know why the bow is literally better than the crossbow in all forms lol

[DarkKrieg]

OP thinks the power of a bow weapon comes directly from the material it's made of....too stupid to be bothered with, just close the thread........

[ULTRA]

Strictly speaking, a metal-limbed crossbow is almost certainly going to have a higher projectile energy than a native-American/First-Nation-styled bow (which is typically made of softer wood), but you are mistaken to act like crossbows are just universally deadlier. Literally a crossbow is just a bow with a trigger mechanism to hold it at full draw. Drawing a crossbow like the player does (sorta a low row with both hands basically) is an incredible mechanical disadvantage compared to the conventional methods of using a stirrup or winch and may as well be no better than a standard one-arm western bow draw. I'm only an endurance athlete myself, not a meathead medieval archer by any circumstances and I can still draw a bow that will shoot an arrow straight through an elk.

"Power" will be decided by how much work you can put into bending the limbs, which is decided mainly by your manipulation of leverage (cams in bows usually, winches and more involvement of posterior chain in crossbows) rather than just, "it's a bow with a post in the middle of it."

tl;dr I think you're right that the standard crossbow ought to hurt more than the new bow, but you are sorely mistaken that crossbows in general are more deadly and in reality crossbows were only invented to man artillery without a lifetime of physical training

[Deggo]

Publicado originalmente por Anarchist Jurisdictor:

"Power" will be decided by how much work you can put into bending the limbs, which is decided mainly by your manipulation of leverage (cams in bows usually, winches and more involvement of posterior chain in crossbows) rather than just, "it's a bow with a post in the middle of it."

You are also missing draw length in your equation. The material of the bow might be lighter, but it is still drawn much further than the crossbow.

Also, the loss by using steel as the prod further reduces the potential energy. There's a reason modern compound crossbows aren't using steel - they try to put as much energy as possible into moving the bolt, not the prod. Medieval steel crossbows are highly inefficient, as shown in the video I posted above.