THE HUNTING BOW

[Eboo]

Since the new event kicked off I've started using the Hunting bow, and I don't consider myself a pro player or anything, but it feels insanely broken to me... As a game designer myself I can't help but feel a nerf is warranted and in fact necessary, here is some video proof (taken from a single play session) to back my feelings, followed with my thoughts...
https://youtu.be/lDkwrOAiWF0

Why do I think the Bow is OP?
-Fire Rate/reload speed is extremely fast (5x faster than the crossbow)
-Total clip (quiver?) of 16 (plus retrievable ammo) makes for almost infinite shots
-Silent weapon, enemies have a very hard time identifying my position
-High damage, this bow has 1-shot potential even with a body shot (can also 1-shot the Locust Ladies or Hounds with 1 body shot)
-Insane accuracy, even at long range arrows almost always land with little to no sway even while moving
-Arrows inflict Bleed at base and can be customized even farther to insanity
-It's a medium sized weapon, allowing me to bring another medium weapon (such as Duel pistols)

Each of these features (listed above) on their own are fantastic, but in my opinion no other weapon offers the versatility and raw damage/utility that the Hunting Bow offers. Making it one of (if not THE) best weapons in the game.

Hunt Showdown is an amazing shooter and battle-royale hybrid, but I think the tuning on this weapon has gone a little too far and devalues the other weapons in the game, am I just crazy? I'm curious to hear what other people think on this.

[Mecharion]

It is to ez to aim with it in close combat. It outplays shotguns and im not sure if that its how it should work.

[ゲ-で]

Originally posted by Mecharion:

It is to ez to aim with it in close combat. It outplays shotguns and im not sure if that its how it should work.

Do I have to draw a shoty for 3-4s to ohk someone? No.
Shotguns are still better cc.
Bows are situational.

[Haywood Jashootmee]

yes, it's just you. most of the players tryna shoot me with it miss, and if they do hit it's rarely fatal.

[Mecharion]

Originally posted by ゲ-で:

Originally posted by Mecharion:

It is to ez to aim with it in close combat. It outplays shotguns and im not sure if that its how it should work.

Do I have to draw a shoty for 3-4s to ohk someone? No.
Shotguns are still better cc.
Bows are situational.

You dont have to draw it 3-4s to kill within 1-5 meters. Also Its hipfire is incredible accurate. But maybe shotgun spread is only stupidly random and bow shines because of that.

[AKOOMA]

Its legit just a nitro handcannon.

I used to main crossbow and uppercut or romero and uppercut.

Now that I have a 2 slot romero that can one shot people at twice the range the only weapons I am bringing into game now is combat bow and some sort of ranged weapon winnnie/springfield compact.

[AKOOMA]

There is literally no reason not to bring the combat bow. Its cheap and super powerful, on top of all of this its way easier to aim and hit shots with over the crossbow.

[AKOOMA]

The only way this thing can be balanced without changing its stats is to make it a 3 slot weapon

[George Reptiloyd]

They should just buff crossbows, tbh. Make the reload time faster with and without bolt thrower, up the projectile velocity and make it travel further without the ballistic effect.

[Eboo]

Originally posted by ゲ-で:

Originally posted by Mecharion:

It is to ez to aim with it in close combat. It outplays shotguns and im not sure if that its how it should work.

Do I have to draw a shoty for 3-4s to ohk someone? No.
Shotguns are still better cc.
Bows are situational.

Even if the shotguns were better than the bow (which I disagree with since I can just walk around with a fully drawn bow and still 1-shot people just like a shotgun would) I still think the Bow is overpowered. My comment is less about a 1-1 comparison and more about the overall weapon usage.

Think about it this way, in what situation is the Hunting bow actually bad? For a shotgun, it's bad at far range and it also gives away your position, therefore it's usable in specific situations only.

I have not once felt I was in a disadvantageous situation with a Hunting bow, sure it might not completely beat out a shotgun for some specific close-range fights, but it's by no means "bad" in that situation. So where is it bad? Why should I pick any other weapon when the bow brings so much value in so many circumstances? The answer - to me - is, I wouldn't. The smart move is to bring the bow 100% of the time, and if I really do need a proper shotgun for whatever reason then I can just use a medium sized one alongside the bow.

[Rifleman]

Originally posted by Noodle:

Originally posted by ゲ-で:

Do I have to draw a shoty for 3-4s to ohk someone? No.
Shotguns are still better cc.
Bows are situational.

Even if the shotguns were better than the bow (which I disagree with since I can just walk around with a fully drawn bow and still 1-shot people just like a shotgun would) I still think the Bow is overpowered. My comment is less about a 1-1 comparison and more about the overall weapon usage.

Think about it this way, in what situation is the Hunting bow actually bad? For a shotgun, it's bad at far range and it also gives away your position, therefore it's usable in specific situations only.

I have not once felt I was in a disadvantageous situation with a Hunting bow, sure it might not completely beat out a shotgun for some specific close-range fights, but it's by no means "bad" in that situation. So where is it bad? Why should I pick any other weapon when the bow brings so much value in so many circumstances? The answer - to me - is, I wouldn't. The smart move is to bring the bow 100% of the time, and if I really do need a proper shotgun for whatever reason then I can just use a medium sized one alongside the bow.

I don't think I've seen any less shotgun players... and most bow players miss... Its only really better if you are hiding in a bush and ambush a person or two and hope it doesn't hit their arm.

[AKOOMA]

Originally posted by Rifleman:

Originally posted by Noodle:

Even if the shotguns were better than the bow (which I disagree with since I can just walk around with a fully drawn bow and still 1-shot people just like a shotgun would) I still think the Bow is overpowered. My comment is less about a 1-1 comparison and more about the overall weapon usage.

Think about it this way, in what situation is the Hunting bow actually bad? For a shotgun, it's bad at far range and it also gives away your position, therefore it's usable in specific situations only.

I have not once felt I was in a disadvantageous situation with a Hunting bow, sure it might not completely beat out a shotgun for some specific close-range fights, but it's by no means "bad" in that situation. So where is it bad? Why should I pick any other weapon when the bow brings so much value in so many circumstances? The answer - to me - is, I wouldn't. The smart move is to bring the bow 100% of the time, and if I really do need a proper shotgun for whatever reason then I can just use a medium sized one alongside the bow.

I don't think I've seen any less shotgun players... and most bow players miss... Its only really better if you are hiding in a bush and ambush a person or two and hope it doesn't hit their arm.

Im constantly in the two highest skill brackets and most people rarely miss a shot with the bow. I can see it being trash in 4 star MMR and below but in the highest bracket literally everyone is running a bow at the moment and I highly doubt it has anything to do with getting event points. The bow is just so good.

[ANIM Rawrs]

- Bow cant penetrate walls unless you bring special ammo. Which is pretty much a basic thing to do at rank 5.
- Half the time at full draw it still doesn't one hit to the chest unless you have a hundred hands. Effective range is the same as a shotgun +/-. Anything beyond that is pretty iffy in my experience.
- You need to draw fully first shot this makes you pretty immobile turning corners unlike the crossbow. You can jump corners and instantly shoot and run on while reloading.
- Arrows need special ammo always to reload and you are not always going to be able to find all your arrows back. If you have special ammo this means only 11 arrows.
- The bow is neither really short range or long range because of this. That said if you run a bow the main advantage is having another 2 slot available. So this is either shotgun or dual pistols. Which are both short range. Now you could take a uppercut to keep the bow for short range but then again why use a bow when you use a single pistol ? The only viable is most likely the nagant deadeye but then short range the bow is not optimal.

Overall people are blowing up the bow to be some god tier weapon. I am rank 5 as a player and rarely if ever see people playing the bow as most people figured out by now that its a weapon that has allot of drawbacks.

[AKOOMA]

Originally posted by ANIM Rawrs:

- Half the time at full draw it still doesn't one hit to the chest unless you have a hundred hands. Effective range is the same as a shotgun +/-. Anything beyond that is pretty iffy in my experience.

I 1 shot someone in the upper chest at the complete opposite side of maw battery. You can't do that with a shotgun.

In CQC bow is a guaranteed one shot kill, if you don't kill someone instantly they will die not even a second later from bleeding.

[Vivian Main]

Originally posted by F-13 AKOOMA:

Originally posted by ANIM Rawrs:

- Half the time at full draw it still doesn't one hit to the chest unless you have a hundred hands. Effective range is the same as a shotgun +/-. Anything beyond that is pretty iffy in my experience.

I 1 shot someone in the upper chest at the complete opposite side of maw battery. You can't do that with a shotgun.

In CQC bow is a guaranteed one shot kill, if you don't kill someone instantly they will die not even a second later from bleeding.

No you don't,if you killed him that way was either hs or he was not full HP.

People really need to stop lying about things to prove a point which only make them look stupid.

[Oobaneko]

Whine about bow because of it's new good close combat weapon.