Request to swap stats on Pax and Conversion

[The Sin Of Cain]

I'd like to request the stats on The Caldwell Conversion Pistol and the Caldwell Pax be swapped. (Price as well)

It's kind of odd the Pax is a better gun all around with better damage and everything with only a TINY bit less handling. Yet the Pax is unlocked at Rank 10, and the Conversion is unlocked at Rank 22. Why is a gun that's unlocked later, worse than one that's unlocked early on?

Plus, The Conversion is kind of the "Flagship" gun of the game, so why make it worse than most of the other pistols in the game? (Personal opinion, it's the best looking pistol in the game, most of all with the Spite Legendary Skin).

[Some Portuguese Bean]

Astartes_XVI_Legion eredeti hozzászólása:

Nonsense post to be completely disregarded.

whom?

[The Sin Of Cain]

Astartes_XVI_Legion eredeti hozzászólása:

Nonsense post to be completely disregarded.

I amended that instead of switching the stats, just make a new version. The thread is just a discussion on a gun i'd like to see get a bit better version of so it's not a junker unless you're hurting for cash.

It's also turned into a nice discussion about what everyone would like to see with the weapons in the game. Some idea's on changes, new weapons, stuff like that.

Would you rather have a nice thread where everyone gives some suggestions and ideas for for little things they would like to see, or just another "OMG CHEATERS AND HACKERS!" or "YOUR SERVERS SUCK CRYTEK! FIX UR ♥♥♥♥!" for the millionth time?

[The Sin Of Cain]

PFC Chyorny 29ID eredeti hozzászólása:

Van Hellsing eredeti hozzászólása:

I mean, it’s right on the cover art book. That’s why I’m a little miffed it’s pretty bad of a gun.

that bad weapon can two shot you and is an all around revolver, you can expect a jack of all trades to be amazing

I don't expect it to be amazing, just on par with the Pax at least. With the Pax, you can kill someone with one bullet if they are missing a couple small HP chunks. Can't do that with the conversion, which makes no sense considering the Conversion is a higher rank unlock than the Pax.

[DarkKrieg]

Conversion is a starter pistol. It's not meant to be anything more than the most basic version of a pistol in this game.

It's higher level unlock is solely due to its connection with the uppercut.

When weapon unlocks made sense, conversion was there right away, and uppercut was a higher level gun.

The issue isn't damage, it's the crappy new unlock system putting the weapon where it doesn't belong.

[Some Portuguese Bean]

Van Hellsing eredeti hozzászólása:

PFC Chyorny 29ID eredeti hozzászólása:

that bad weapon can two shot you and is an all around revolver, you can expect a jack of all trades to be amazing

I don't expect it to be amazing, just on par with the Pax at least. With the Pax, you can kill someone with one bullet if they are missing a couple small HP chunks. Can't do that with the conversion, which makes no sense considering the Conversion is a higher rank unlock than the Pax.

dont expect compact bullets to beat medium bullets

[Trout hunter]

I still like better the conversion than the pax. I don't know why i hate something about this gun

[DarkKrieg]

Because the conversion has better handling. The uppercut is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ laser.

[Hans Showdown]

Van Hellsing eredeti hozzászólása:

DarkKrieg eredeti hozzászólása:

It's unlocked later because it allows you to unlock the uppercut variant, which is one of the best weapons in the game.

The pax is available sooner to give you a medium ammo weapon.

For the price, Uppercut really isn't worth it over Pax. 3x the price for an extra 20 damage. I just feel liek there is no reason to use Conversion over Pax, Uppercut or not.

since the uppercut is capable of shooting through trees and stuff...and got a lot of range. also laseraim.

[The Sin Of Cain]

PFC Chyorny 29ID eredeti hozzászólása:

Van Hellsing eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't expect it to be amazing, just on par with the Pax at least. With the Pax, you can kill someone with one bullet if they are missing a couple small HP chunks. Can't do that with the conversion, which makes no sense considering the Conversion is a higher rank unlock than the Pax.

dont expect compact bullets to beat medium bullets

I don’t expect that. Which is why I offered the idea to have a new version added.

Caldwell Conversion .38 that uses compact ammo and does the current damage.

Then the more powerful Caldwell Conversion .45 that uses Medium Ammo. (And is equal~ish to the Pax)

Then we have the Uppercut that uses Long Ammo.

[DarkKrieg]

If they made a gun roughly equal to pax, then why would anyone use the pax?

Dude, they don't balance like that. Just because you don't enjoy using it, doesn't mean anything should change.

[The Sin Of Cain]

DarkKrieg eredeti hozzászólása:

If they made a gun roughly equal to pax, then why would anyone use the pax?

Dude, they don't balance like that. Just because you don't enjoy using it, doesn't mean anything should change.

Design choice. Just because there is a Conversion that's comparable to Pax, doesn't mean everyone isn't going to use it. Maybe others like the design of the Pax, and like the Vanguard skin for it too.

[DarkKrieg]

Again, skin likability doesn't effect weapon balance.

Why not have all weapons do the same damage, but you can just make them look like whatever you want?

We get it, you hate how it looks. The pax is the gun in between Conversion and uppercut.

Just because you don't like how it looks, doesn't mean they should make a clone of the version with a different skin just for you.

This really is one of the more absurd posts

[güey]

Van Hellsing eredeti hozzászólása:

DarkKrieg eredeti hozzászólása:

It's unlocked later because it allows you to unlock the uppercut variant, which is one of the best weapons in the game.

The pax is available sooner to give you a medium ammo weapon.

For the price, Uppercut really isn't worth it over Pax. 3x the price for an extra 20 damage. I just feel liek there is no reason to use Conversion over Pax, Uppercut or not.

"For the price, the Uppercut isn't really worth it over Pax"
ahahaha u are a funny guy

[The Sin Of Cain]

DarkKrieg eredeti hozzászólása:

Again, skin likability doesn't effect weapon balance.

Why not have all weapons do the same damage, but you can just make them look like whatever you want?

We get it, you hate how it looks. The pax is the gun in between Conversion and uppercut.

Just because you don't like how it looks, doesn't mean they should make a clone of the version with a different skin just for you.

This really is one of the more absurd posts

Why are you bringing balance into this? Seriously, Just make it so there are three versions. The regular Conversion now, the new one I propose that has the stats of Pax, then the uppercut. It's not like i'm asking for some OP gun or something.

[DarkKrieg]

You're asking them to reskin the pax to look like a conversion. That's ridiculous.