AI is TRASH

[Mr. Rathalos]

when the hell does crytek plan to make the AI in this game not a heaping loading of worthless garbage? honestly that's gonna be this games #1 downfall. like why in the ♥♥♥♥ when im being chased by an immolator that of course seemingly came from thin air of course, in the middle of a gun fight when i run past the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shooting at me litterally run straight inbetween them, does the POS AI in this game not idk make the immolator pick other targets to chase? instead he just nods his hat and runs on past "save your bullets boys i got this one!" and dont get me started on the ♥♥♥♥ AI for the 3 bosses my 5 year old nephew can beat them without being hit. mine as well turn this game into ♥♥♥♥♥♥ battlefield without destroyable buildings but the same amount of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ explosions.

[Geck0]

Only problem with immolators is the aggro bug where they'll run at a player that didn't aggro them, which is the same problem with hives and hellhounds, as well as meatheads targeting you even if you didn't get poisoned.

[Stillwater Casey]

Geck0님이 먼저 게시:

Only problem with immolators is the aggro bug where they'll run at a player that didn't aggro them, which is the same problem with hives and hellhounds, as well as meatheads targeting you even if you didn't get poisoned.

They are meant to pick a random nearby target when aggoed, all of them. That way if you are at long range you can use the AI as a weapon against other players by aggroing them and causing them to attack the other person. Also meatheads aren't broken with aggroing, they can respond the the squeals their leeches make even if you don't get poisoned intentionally and are just easier to shake then, and they have a very close proximity aggro for if you get within a few feet of them, that too isn't a bug. The only bug meatheads have is getting stuck in place when taken out of their navigational routes.

[Geck0]

rbrown218님이 먼저 게시:

Geck0님이 먼저 게시:

Only problem with immolators is the aggro bug where they'll run at a player that didn't aggro them, which is the same problem with hives and hellhounds, as well as meatheads targeting you even if you didn't get poisoned.

They are meant to pick a random nearby target when aggoed, all of them. That way if you are at long range you can use the AI as a weapon against other players by aggroing them and causing them to attack the other person. Also meatheads aren't broken with aggroing, they can respond the the squeals their leeches make even if you don't get poisoned intentionally and are just easier to shake then, and they have a very close proximity aggro for if you get within a few feet of them, that too isn't a bug. The only bug meatheads have is getting stuck in place when taken out of their navigational routes.

I feel like making ai aggro work that way on purpose is even worse lol, I've had my position blown by enemies who weren't lured towards me or anything, but came at me despite me not being in a position to aggro them because an enemy player unintentionally had them aggro to me. That feels pretty damn cheap

[Stillwater Casey]

Geck0님이 먼저 게시:

I feel like making ai aggro work that way on purpose is even worse lol, I've had my position blown by enemies who weren't lured towards me or anything, but came at me despite me not being in a position to aggro them because an enemy player unintentionally had them aggro to me. That feels pretty damn cheap

If you are closer to the AI and are easier to spot than the other player they will be more likely to aggro on you, there's nothing cheap about this. It allows for more strategic play if you learn to use it to your advantage and also prevent it from happening to yourself. It's a good mechanic and has it's place in this game. If you hate it you'll just have to live with it but it's a lot more fun if you learn to use it to your advantage.

[Geck0]

rbrown218님이 먼저 게시:

Geck0님이 먼저 게시:

I feel like making ai aggro work that way on purpose is even worse lol, I've had my position blown by enemies who weren't lured towards me or anything, but came at me despite me not being in a position to aggro them because an enemy player unintentionally had them aggro to me. That feels pretty damn cheap

If you are closer to the AI and are easier to spot than the other player they will be more likely to aggro on you, there's nothing cheap about this. It allows for more strategic play if you learn to use it to your advantage and also prevent it from happening to yourself. It's a good mechanic and has it's place in this game. If you hate it you'll just have to live with it but it's a lot more fun if you learn to use it to your advantage.

There is if there's a wall between the ai and me. Nothing easy to spot about that.

[Stillwater Casey]

Geck0님이 먼저 게시:

There is if there's a wall between the ai and me. Nothing easy to spot about that.

The devs have admitted to knowing about how AI detect you too easily through walls and they are trying to fix that. I believe in the last update they mentioned it but I don't know if it was a known bug or they tried to fix it. In my experience they don't detect you through walls so easily consistently though, it's still a rare occasion.

[Inv1s1ble]

Calm down angry kid and learn to play.

A: The game is not meant to be a PvE game. The AI, be it the grunts or bosses, are only there to trigger sounds and get players to interact with each other.

B: If you die to the AI, especially in fights you did not pay attention to the situation and your surroundings. Next time don't fight near immolators or other AI or at least be aware of it - you might even use it to your advantage if you are skilled enough.

C: Two shots kill an immolator. Or a few hits with the brace knuckles... or a choke bomb... not that big of a deal.

[Iron|Cu!]

AI is trash, that is just pure fact. But you are even trashier if you find those bot's hard to kill or dodge. Sorry for harsh words, but thats just true.

[ElDiabolo]

Take a deep breath and start working on your sentence structure, spelling and punctuation.

Then try again.

[Dexta]

rbrown218님이 먼저 게시:

I agree the AI needs to be upgraded, but your argument about the immolator is just dumb. You're mad because the AI actually did something? I'm mad that I can stand a meter and a half from a grunt and it'll look straight at me and not see me. As for the explosives, destroyable buildings isn't a good idea.

+1 This

The AI should be made more dangerous.

[Pex ☠ DeaDLire]

+1, just IA need more logic agro system fix, why a z going back but detect up, just bugged game name crashsteak :)

Blablabla use Z for blabla, u blabla no skill blabla, really guys?
Bugged is bugged, rng is rng, this game have trash detect system and this ia is trash.
Z detect A but going on B player, this bug is joke since long time!
Just need more love and work for this game but devs want always more money for more dlc for more player for more plateform...

El Diabolo님이 먼저 게시:

Take a deep breath and start working on your sentence structure, spelling and punctuation.

Then try again.

Here is not your school kid, all is not english, mr troll return community cancer

[D0m1nant Zer0]

Mr. Rathalos님이 먼저 게시:

when the hell does crytek plan to make the AI in this game not a heaping loading of worthless garbage? honestly that's gonna be this games #1 downfall. like why in the ♥♥♥♥ when im being chased by an immolator that of course seemingly came from thin air of course, in the middle of a gun fight when i run past the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s shooting at me litterally run straight inbetween them, does the POS AI in this game not idk make the immolator pick other targets to chase? instead he just nods his hat and runs on past "save your bullets boys i got this one!" and dont get me started on the ♥♥♥♥ AI for the 3 bosses my 5 year old nephew can beat them without being hit. mine as well turn this game into ♥♥♥♥♥♥ battlefield without destroyable buildings but the same amount of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ explosions.

What are you talking about? Everything is fine with AI. The main enemy here is people. This is not a single player game.

[Mr. Rathalos]

i am aware that AI are easy to kill my issue is that they are all ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid as rocks, my situation i was in a close range shoot out, the immolator started chasing me, i ran inbetween the two enemies that were shooting at me, the immolator gave 0 ♥♥♥♥♥ about them and kept chasing after me even tho i hopped a fence and the other player would had been easier to target onto he decided to run all the way around the fence to continue chasing me, this in my whole hearted opinion is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid as ♥♥♥♥ when the fastest cpu enemy in the game will not break target to select new targets.

[ThreeDee]

Mr. Rathalos님이 먼저 게시:

i am aware that AI are easy to kill my issue is that they are all ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid as rocks, my situation i was in a close range shoot out, the immolator started chasing me, i ran inbetween the two enemies that were shooting at me, the immolator gave 0 ♥♥♥♥♥ about them and kept chasing after me even tho i hopped a fence and the other player would had been easier to target onto he decided to run all the way around the fence to continue chasing me, this in my whole hearted opinion is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid as ♥♥♥♥ when the fastest cpu enemy in the game will not break target to select new targets.

lol ..you didn't plan well when you decided to engage .. own it and move on. I play solo and have made the same mistake .. my own fault and I've done it more than once and I'll probably do it again

..and yes, I am a virgin ..but please don't tell my wife and daughter

[General Cooper]

Mr. Rathalos님이 먼저 게시:

when the hell does crytek plan to make the AI in this game not a heaping loading of worthless garbage? honestly that's gonna be this games #1 downfall. like why in the ♥♥♥♥ when im being chased by an immolator that of course seemingly came from thin air of course, in the middle of a gun fight when i run past the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s shooting at me litterally run straight inbetween them, does the POS AI in this game not idk make the immolator pick other targets to chase? instead he just nods his hat and runs on past "save your bullets boys i got this one!" and dont get me started on the ♥♥♥♥ AI for the 3 bosses my 5 year old nephew can beat them without being hit. mine as well turn this game into ♥♥♥♥♥♥ battlefield without destroyable buildings but the same amount of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ explosions.

This is AI is bad more than happy to admit that. but thats also the community fault.
There was a time when hounds were feared! when messing with a hive could mean death. there was a time when being loud meant the ai may kill you and if not the players would. but then people ♥♥♥♥♥ that they could not run around the map shooting like crazy and the devs made ai too easy now