Hunt: Showdown 1896

Hunt: Showdown 1896

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Offy 2020 年 1 月 27 日 下午 2:40
The gun selection in this game is unrealistic
I started getting back into the game recently and was pretty shocked by the odd choice of weapons they kept since early access or added later on. The Vetterli makes sense because it’s just a knockoff of an American design, but there are a ton of other guns that make no sense.

No one in the US would have access to the Nagant revolver at this time. The Schofield could easily take the role of the Nagant in terms of gameplay and authenticity, especially because the Russians mainly stole US designs for their revolvers.

Rifles like the Mosin and Lebel are laughable, and it’s likely they were only added because the devs are European. The Krag-Jorgensen would make so much more sense because they were being produced in the US by the time of the game. Many players say that it would oversaturate bolt-actions, so I propose that Crytek removes the other bolt-actions and replace them with a Krag.

The Martini-Henry is a silly addition too because the British just copied the breech design from the US Springfield Trapdoor 1873, which would make so much more sense in-game as a cheap single-shot rifle. It would’ve been far more common in the US than the Martinis.

The Bergmann (Bornheim) makes absolutely no sense anywhere in the world since it was only a prototype. The C96 (Dolch) is also pretty dumb because it wouldn’t have been common in the US until they were brought back by returning soldiers after WWI. Also the C96 was almost immediately replaced by the P08 Luger anyways because it was the much better design.

The LeMat would’ve been a museum piece by the 1890s. The only reason I could see why Crytek would add it is to appeal to neo-Confederate players because even during the Civil War it was a POS last-ditch design.

Finally, the Avtomat is hilariously stupid. It’s an entirely fictional gun based off of the Huot Automatic, a British prototype that wouldn’t be invented until like 20 years after the game takes place. Not only that, but the devs made a whole game focused around single-shot rifles and single-action revolvers and then add an assault rifle for no reason at all. All of this proves that Crytek probably doesn’t know anything about 1890s America.
引用自 Big Sister Lover:
引用自 Dexta
引用自 Officer




That’s fallacious. The weapon selection and the enemies are two completely different aspects of the game’s design. For example, Red Dead Redemption is unrealistic because you can take 100 shots from a rifle and eat beans to heal, should they add an AK-47 because the game’s already too unrealistic?

None of the weapons in Hunt are unrealistic unless you are extremely autistic about it.
A lot of rare/prototype/outdated/foreign weaponry could be brought by overseas hunters to the Bayou. The Lodge as an organisation could also develop/import all of them.

You tried to look smart but failed hard.
:steamsalty: 😉
What?

Dude did you even read his thing? he's basically pointing at the guns that are either archaic and outdated or completely redundant designs used by Europeans. There's no reasonable explanation for their inclusion in a game set in Louisiana when there's a much more common gun that fulfills the same role.

Like no one thinks the Carcano should be in Red Dead redemption for the same reason. They did exist at the time but the bolt action fits the setting better and fills the same role.
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Criss 2020 年 1 月 27 日 下午 7:39 
the krag should be added tho
Alex 2020 年 1 月 27 日 下午 8:22 
引用自 KOT Sammler
i did often shot with a real mosin from world war
And sure u fired a gun with same cartridge, same bullets and same gunpowder as it were in early 1900s, aren't u?
I don't live in USA or other country with so high gun accessability, but even i understand that same gun can sound totally different if u use different gunpowder and/or bullet.
Maldito 2020 年 1 月 27 日 下午 9:10 
I´m waiting for Thompson :splitskull:
James Finn (reformed!) 2020 年 1 月 27 日 下午 9:11 
Did someone already call out the fact that he's playing a game with zombies and regenerating health in it?
Jedster 2020 年 1 月 27 日 下午 10:48 
Why I have a feeling OP wrote this not cos it not "realistic" but cos he is :steamsalty: that devs put Russian and European rifles in the game and not their "obviously better" american counterparts?
Bitter LoD 2020 年 1 月 27 日 下午 10:51 
You are the smartest stupidest person I know. I assume you volunteer at a gun store somewhere in Australia or Britain.
Inv1s1ble 2020 年 1 月 27 日 下午 11:30 
It's an action/fantasy/horror PvP multi-player video game. It does not have to be realistic. Nor is it aiming at any historic or geographic accuracy.
Why should it? Almost no on cares about that unless you are a hardcore nerd of history, geography or weapons.

Creative freedom means fun and that's more important than accuracy in a game like that.

I mean, there are demons, zombies, monsters etc.
There is a map with a lot of random buildings in short distances. There are magic clues, dark sight, banishing, bounties, hive bombs, vitality shots, etc. etc.

I recommend you stick to history books.
最後修改者:Inv1s1ble; 2020 年 1 月 27 日 下午 11:30
ElDiabolo 2020 年 1 月 27 日 下午 11:36 
It’s also pretty unrealistic that there are zombies and massive spiders with human heads inside
KoT Sammler (已封鎖) 2020 年 1 月 27 日 下午 11:43 
引用自 just a newbie
引用自 KOT Sammler
i did often shot with a real mosin from world war
And sure u fired a gun with same cartridge, same bullets and same gunpowder as it were in early 1900s, aren't u?
I don't live in USA or other country with so high gun accessability, but even i understand that same gun can sound totally different if u use different gunpowder and/or bullet.
dossnt matter what bullet i did shot (and there was some different bullets) - never had that ingame sound when i shot in real - but yeah if someone find a fail in this game another fanboy find 1000reasons for defend it xD think what want, but thats never the sound of a real mosin.
check it out for yourself, if you cant in real life, you find some videos on youtube, but think about, you dont hear the full sound, becouse the micros dont record it full.
最後修改者:KoT Sammler; 2020 年 1 月 27 日 下午 11:58
Pro-Newb 2020 年 1 月 27 日 下午 11:43 
Well this thread got derailed quickly
Stillwater Casey 2020 年 1 月 27 日 下午 11:56 
In the end this is a fantasy take on 1895, and the devs can change the history of their fantasy world and add what guns they want. I actually enjoy imagining how the "unrealistic" guns could have found success and become common in the US due to the apocalypse. What if, due to the need for more firepower to fight the monsters, american gunslingers found the "Bornheim" pistol so good that it was able to make commercial success? What if the mosins are there because Russia, being so far from the problem, was able to make them cheap and sell them at a very profitable price to american hunters? And the unique take on the LeMat? What if former civil war soldiers found the gun so useful that they had it redesigned for the use of cased cartridges? The choice of guns this game has aren't the problem, it's that it isn't as hardcore as it was before the full release. Guns need to feel clunky, unconventional, and not ergonomic by modern standards and the heavy and more realistic weapon sway needs to be brought back.
Kosmozuikis 2020 年 1 月 28 日 上午 3:11 
Having only US guns doesn't make sense. Who wants that? And talking about realism in a fantasy game...
Dexta 2020 年 1 月 28 日 上午 3:36 
引用自 Officer
引用自 Dexta

None of the weapons in Hunt are unrealistic unless you are extremely autistic about it.
A lot of rare/prototype/outdated/foreign weaponry could be brought by overseas hunters to the Bayou. The Lodge as an organisation could also develop/import all of them.

You tried to look smart but failed hard.
:steamsalty: 😉

You call me salty yet you can’t make a point without being ableist. Reported.


Reeeeeeeeeeeeported lmao 🤣
Cry some more 🤡
Offy 2020 年 1 月 28 日 上午 4:53 
引用自 Kosmozuikis
Having only US guns doesn't make sense. Who wants that? And talking about realism in a fantasy game...

Why not? The US produced and designed some of the most iconic firearms of the 19th century, pretty much every other nation copied them. There’s such a huge variety of American guns to fit a Western setting that adding Euro weapons is clearly a cop-out.
Leary 2020 年 1 月 28 日 上午 4:58 
The thing that gets me on this thread is that people still call Hunt a "wild west" game.

At no point was LA the wild west. Especially not in the 1890s. Westward expansion was over decades before.
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