Blood bonds to fix health bar on legendary hunter skins?????

[NOsoup4you]

Ok so let me get this right....
First I spend money on the DLC, then i spend a few hundred hunt dollars on the hunter, then i spend more hunt dollars on a loadout (which is fine) but then I get to the part where I want to fix the health bar....I know some ppl prefer 3 large chunks, but i also know that a lot of us do not....With that being said, i dont think its right to try and twist my arm into spending MORE actual money just to get a proper health bar. It especially burns my ass to see that a lot of the FREE hunters come with a better health bar than the ones i am paying a fortune for....Of course i could go into a match and burn off my last health bar, but I think its a little bit ridiculous to be forced into intentionally burning off a health bar while in a match....There will be those who say "just grind out the bonds" but how practical is that in the long run? honestly, blind eyes could see what they are going for here. Ive owned this game since release and have spent many hours playing AND defending it. I dont appreciate the devs trying to suck MORE money from my pockets.

[WC?]

Messaggio originale di DarkKrieg:

It was a bad part of the game. Personally I'm against leveling of any kind.

Everyone should start off on exactly equal footing and have all weapons/tools at their disposal from the start.

Leveling is just how games keep people addicted by making them feel like they are accomplishing something.

THATS EXACTLY IT! THEY DID!

Everyone started off at level 1 with 666 hunt dollars. You only had your 100HP T1s untill you reached T2 and T3. You pulled yourself up from your bootstraps on your own skill. Or you withered and languished at T1 untill through sheer attrittion you made it to T2 and T3. Everything was your personal skill. It was up to you to GIT GUD. Then they just handed everyone 150 hp.

It WAS fair. It was fair because everyone had the same starting point, what happened after that was up to you.

[DarkKrieg]

It's not actually fair if we both have the same gun and shoot each other in the same spot but you die and I don't because I'm not the same level as you.

That isn't fair or skill based. That's some MMorpg ♥♥♥♥

[WC?]

Messaggio originale di DarkKrieg:

It's not actually fair if we both have the same gun and shoot each other in the same spot but you die and I don't because I'm not the same level as you.

That isn't fair or skill based. That's some MMorpg ♥♥♥♥

But it is. Because if I have more health its because I EARNED IT with the same T1 guy that you had at some point. And upon death it is all lost. So it is your own skill maintaining the advantage after you earn it. If you simply reached "level 75 epic cowboy-gunslinger-badass" and stayed that way forever then yes it would be some "mmo ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥". But in this case you had to maintain your advantage by not getting killed. Its fair because they guy with the T3 HP proves he is worthy of it every game by not dying, if he fails he loses the edge.

I don't really know how many times/ways I can restate this. If to obtain the T3, you had to at some point be the T1 vs the T3, I fail to see how it is "unfair". The ones running around with advantages were at one point the disadvantaged, they didn't just wish themselves to T3.

And if you are not that good, you will not stay in the advantageous position, die too many times with your T3 avtomat and you won't be able to afford it. It is the most fair expression of personal skill I can think of.

The permadeath is what balances it all out in the end, or at least it was.

[NOsoup4you]

I think damn near every one of you missed my point....I can get a T1 hunter for FREE that ALREADY has the health bar that I want....The fact that they are offering a chance to change the health bar on a legendary hunter with blood bonds is ridiculous. Its a money grab. End of story. There are MANY ways they could fix this but until then in my eyes they are just another company trying to squeeze their fingers deeper and deeper into my....pocket

[WC?]

Messaggio originale di NOsoup4you:

I think damn near every one of you missed my point....I can get a T1 hunter for FREE that ALREADY has the health bar that I want....The fact that they are offering a chance to change the health bar on a legendary hunter with blood bonds is ridiculous. Its a money grab. End of story. There are MANY ways they could fix this but until then in my eyes they are just another company trying to squeeze their fingers deeper and deeper into my....pocket

The HP respec option is the same for normal and legendary hunters. The decision to use the legendary hunter is totally up to the player and is pure vanity as such it offers ZERO advantage over a standard hunter of any tier. In fact they come as a total blank. I think this implementation is totally fine and I don't really understand OP's issue.

I suppose Crytek could offer one or two free HP respec with each legendary but that is up to them and IMO extra, you are not entitled to it since the option of legendary is pure vanity in the first place.

[NOsoup4you]

Messaggio originale di Buzzard Burbridge:

Messaggio originale di NOsoup4you:

I think damn near every one of you missed my point....I can get a T1 hunter for FREE that ALREADY has the health bar that I want....The fact that they are offering a chance to change the health bar on a legendary hunter with blood bonds is ridiculous. Its a money grab. End of story. There are MANY ways they could fix this but until then in my eyes they are just another company trying to squeeze their fingers deeper and deeper into my....pocket

The HP respec option is the same for normal and legendary hunters. The decision to use the legendary hunter is totally up to the player and is pure vanity as such it offers ZERO advantage over a standard hunter of any tier. In fact they come as a total blank. I think this implementation is totally fine and I don't really understand OP's issue.

I suppose Crytek could offer one or two free HP respec with each legendary but that is up to them and IMO extra, you are not entitled to it since the option of legendary is pure vanity in the first place.

OK, yes the decision to support the game that I have enjoyed from day one was my choice to make, I spent money for COSMETIC SKINS, fully understanding that I would have to shell out for weapons and stuff, but I did not realize that I would also be stuck with a garbage health bar as well. If other hunters of equal value came with the same health bar I would not be complaining. I shouldnt be at a disadvantage NOR an advantage just because i decided to support the game. I think even just one free HP respec would solve the issue and put an end to my complaining...or If i could add the SKIN to a free hunter of my choosing....although honestly even if they allowed us to add the skin to a T3 hunter it shouldnt matter because ITS JUST A SKIN. You would still pay for whatever hunter u decide to add the skin to. i dont understand how that would upset the "balance" or be considered pay to win....especially when most of the legendary SKINS make your hitbox twice the size of some T1 hunters.

[Olaf]

Messaggio originale di NOsoup4you:

Ok so let me get this right....
First I spend money on the DLC, then i spend a few hundred hunt dollars on the hunter, then i spend more hunt dollars on a loadout (which is fine) but then I get to the part where I want to fix the health bar....I know some ppl prefer 3 large chunks, but i also know that a lot of us do not....With that being said, i dont think its right to try and twist my arm into spending MORE actual money just to get a proper health bar. It especially burns my ♥♥♥ to see that a lot of the FREE hunters come with a better health bar than the ones i am paying a fortune for....Of course i could go into a match and burn off my last health bar, but I think its a little bit ridiculous to be forced into intentionally burning off a health bar while in a match....There will be those who say "just grind out the bonds" but how practical is that in the long run? honestly, blind eyes could see what they are going for here. Ive owned this game since release and have spent many hours playing AND defending it. I dont appreciate the devs trying to suck MORE money from my pockets.

you still can fix your healthbar by using trait points, and you don't HAVE to spend real money in to bloodbounds. It is easy to grind them

[DarkKrieg]

Garbage health bar is subjective. The devs can't create mechanics based on your individual assessment.

Myself and others prefer large bars. I was very happy to discover I could always have the bars I like with legendaries.

You also don't HAVE to respec. It's entirely a luxury addition.

Luxury = unnecessary and usually pricey

[NOsoup4you]

Messaggio originale di OlafPawbelt:

Messaggio originale di NOsoup4you:

Ok so let me get this right....
First I spend money on the DLC, then i spend a few hundred hunt dollars on the hunter, then i spend more hunt dollars on a loadout (which is fine) but then I get to the part where I want to fix the health bar....I know some ppl prefer 3 large chunks, but i also know that a lot of us do not....With that being said, i dont think its right to try and twist my arm into spending MORE actual money just to get a proper health bar. It especially burns my ♥♥♥ to see that a lot of the FREE hunters come with a better health bar than the ones i am paying a fortune for....Of course i could go into a match and burn off my last health bar, but I think its a little bit ridiculous to be forced into intentionally burning off a health bar while in a match....There will be those who say "just grind out the bonds" but how practical is that in the long run? honestly, blind eyes could see what they are going for here. Ive owned this game since release and have spent many hours playing AND defending it. I dont appreciate the devs trying to suck MORE money from my pockets.

you still can fix your healthbar by using trait points, and you don't HAVE to spend real money in to bloodbounds. It is easy to grind them

...so burn off my healthbar? bc thats the only way to use trait points....And like i said before grinding out 25 bloodbonds every time I die is stupid. Super stupid. You dont get awarded enough for that to be practical...however im sure there are plenty people out there willing to dump 25cent everytime they die...devs are not stupid. They know how those tiny transactions add up...I honestly regret spending money on the DLC.

[DarkKrieg]

Before 1.0 there was no respec for health.

You had to burn bars and spend 3/7 points for small/big chunks.

Why do you all insist on respec to get exactly what you want? It's SUPPOSED to be random and it becomes part of your decision when choosing hunters from the current roll.

[Olaf]

Messaggio originale di NOsoup4you:

Messaggio originale di OlafPawbelt:

you still can fix your healthbar by using trait points, and you don't HAVE to spend real money in to bloodbounds. It is easy to grind them

...so burn off my healthbar? bc thats the only way to use trait points....And like i said before grinding out 25 bloodbonds every time I die is stupid. Super stupid. You dont get awarded enough for that to be practical...however im sure there are plenty people out there willing to dump 25cent everytime they die...devs are not stupid. They know how those tiny transactions add up...I honestly regret spending money on the DLC.

many people burn it off an have done that since it was a thing in the game before bloodbounds, and maybe be more careful then so you dont die? The gaame is not only about run n' gun. And it isn't important to change healthbars, i never do that and have never really needed it. Everything depends on what you choose, nothing force you to do it so i don't see a reason to cry about it