Winfield is really worse since update, need adjustments

[₦ | cpt.morgan]

There are already some threads for the winfield since the update and we know many people are and not really happy with it at the moment, so i want discuss some solutions for it, so here a abstract of the Book of Weapons from the game

"The Winfield is a gun with high accuracy, long range and fast firing speed. It was the first gun who uses medium ammo! The Winfield become popular to protect houses as to hunt and kill bisons at 200m"

Crytek write it down in their own book, so use it

• Give all Winfields Rapidfire back
• Give Winfield M1873C and Variants "Compact Ammo"
• Give Winfield M1873 and Variants "Medium Ammo"

The problem is you have practically no chance against other good weapons like Vetterli, Sparks, Lebel, Mosin and its not really fair for players who want enjoy this gun. It stretch too far away from the line of the other Rifles

So the best solution in my mind is, give the Winfield M1873 Medium Ammo, to bring it more back in one line with the other weapons, also stick to the rapidfire feature. and no its not owerpowered, because of the range and damage of Winfield, so mosin, lebel, sparks etc. are always the choice

The Winfield M1873C (Tier1) is a weapon for beginners and it should stick with the compact ammo. it should more define from the Winfield M1873 (Tier2). They are different weapon classes

The Winfield M1873 is also a Prestige 50 Gun, and such a week gun for Prestige 50 its a mess

Its the most popular gun since the alpha and a Winfield without rapidfire, i dont know is like Counter-Strike without Ak47 or M4A1 its stupid

[Adjudant van der Steen]

This is actually a good idea, I'm not that big of a fan of Winfield, 'cause it's just a rapidfire headshot weapon which is highly frustrating. But giving it medium ammo sounds like it might be a good idea.

[Spitzer_DK]

atm there's nothing rapid fire about it, which is breaking the immersion pretty bad because that's exactly what the gun [Winchester] was known for, i.e. a high rate of fire, large capacity and decent power.

It would be much better if the devs gave it back its original rate of fire from 6.0 and instead adjusted its price and rank unlock lvl to match its effectiveness ingame.

Nerfing the gun to become unrecognizable from its real life counterpart does the game absolutely no good and only serves losing a lot of potential customers who are a fan of the most iconic weapon of the old western era - and deservedly so.

Hence this weapon definitely needs to be done justice ingame, i.e. it needs to be the highly effective and versatile weapon it was in real life, with price & rank matching that ofcourse.

[₦ | cpt.morgan]

yeah, i think that also. they should more stick to his real state. the gun nerfing is pointless, you have so much other guns that are powerful ingame. so when they would change it back, it would give only beginners and people who love playing winfield an advantage but for game balance it changes nothing, a lebel marksman, mosin etc are. always stronger as a winfield. completly irrelevant if you have rapidfire or not. same for shotguns

[rba]

Winfield is fine, learn to aim. Who cares if the guy you're fighting has a Mosin if you headshot him? The Winfield still fires pretty fast compared to other rifles, before it was just a body shot spam machine and that wasn't good for balance.

[Dr.Bourinos]

Why would they need to balance it if any rifle is a one headshot kill anyway? It's not like if they were hard to do now.

[₦ | cpt.morgan]

guys it haves nothing to do with learn to aim or something, i can perform with all guns a headshot so its not an argument. so when its a so powerfull gun why not all pro gamers from twitch use a winfield instead of lebel, mosin, snipers etc. huh? in practise its not so easy as you think. btw. you can also make spamshot with other weapons, you dont need a winfield for that

[Dr.Bourinos]

Escrito originalmente por cpt. morgan:

guys it haves nothing to do with learn to aim or something, i can perform with all guns a headshot so its not an argument. so when its a so powerfull gun why not all pro gamers from twitch use a winfield instead of lebel, mosin, snipers etc. huh? in practise its not so easy as you think. btw. you can also make spamshot with other weapons, you dont need a winfield for that

Because higher tier weapons are obviously better at longer ranges? More bullet speed, more damage... It's also possible to do some uppercut/mosin or stuff like that combo for close range encounters.

[LMBits]

I got to say I used to get Winfields all the time and now I hardly use it. Most encounters are open field or long range and Winfield doesn't cut it anymore for some reason. Not sure what they did but now I am better off with a Vetterly or Sparks if I can't afford to be buying mosins all the time. On top of that the unlocking systems killed the Swift.. Haven't seen one since 1.0

[Shibino]

If you boost the winfield you'll make it always preferable to a vetterli and even better than other bolt-action rifles in some situational fights. It's fine where it is sitting, unlock the swift version and start melting people.

[Zeth]

You guys act like before 1.0 the Winfield wasn’t the most used gun by EVERYONE. It’s still a great gun.

[Lord Dazed & Insane]

Winfield is in a good spot now, it's an early game gun, it doesn't need to be amazing. Get over it and get a new favorite.

[Dr.Bourinos]

Mhh, headshots are quite reliable with a winfield atm, especially in the 20-70m range. Idk what you're doing wrong, maybe bullet speed adjustments cause you some troubles?

[DOFR]

The only decent change I see is reducing Traits cost to 2 instead of 3, making it a bit more point efficient compared to bolt action rifles

[*|H.K|*]

Just bring the game back like it was in 0.6.
Sway and even more sway when you're out of stamina, less velocity, more recoil, less precised weapons (we are in 19th century). I really want that hardcore side with big punised but only for good plays.

No more spriting everwhere to land stupids HS outta nowhere

[Galla]

Winfield C is in a good place now. It's supposed to be a crap gun. If I could get 2 shot by the cheapest rifle in the game before I can even cycle the bolt of my vetterli, then there would be a problem. Winfield C has virtually no sway, has an insane amount of ammo and costs virtually nothing.
Regular winfield could do with a buff, but making it medium ammo would be way too far