why do i need warhammer 1 to play mortal empires?

[Jackal]

this game already costs so much, and to get a second mode i have to buy a whole other game??

[Elitewrecker PT]

It combines the maps of both games and unlocks the content from WH1.
It's not like WH3 though, where Immortal Empires is now accessible by everyone but you still need to buy the other base games if you want access to the base factions of them.

[grognardgary]

It;s not just a mode, it is half a dozen factions along with access to dozens more as a player and the territory they occupy.

[Valentine (Lunaticus)]

Because CA needs more money. The reason is 100% greed and nothing else.

[grognardgary]

Originally posted by Valentine (Lunaticus):

Because CA needs more money. The reason is 100% greed and nothing else.

And what does CA do with their money?

[armbarchris]

It's not a second mode, it is that entire other game.

[Valentine (Lunaticus)]

Originally posted by grognardgary:

Originally posted by Valentine (Lunaticus):

Because CA needs more money. The reason is 100% greed and nothing else.

And what does CA do with their money?

If you think the answer is put it back into the games to make quality content, you've been living under a rock. CA has a terrible reputation right now for a reason.

[veracsthane]

ill be honest despite having both 1 and 2 and all dlc i would recommend against buying either game unless you have under 1 min load times. it makes that much of a difference when you lose an hour in 30 turns to load times.

[TheAlmightyProo]

Originally posted by veracsthane:

ill be honest despite having both 1 and 2 and all dlc i would recommend against buying either game unless you have under 1 min load times. it makes that much of a difference when you lose an hour in 30 turns to load times.

Tbf at this point anybody half serious about their gaming should be using storage up to the task. It says much that even the current consoles have standardised NVME, years after it became a thing on PC, and HDD is now an archival medium.

[TheAlmightyProo]

Originally posted by Valentine (Lunaticus):

Originally posted by grognardgary:

And what does CA do with their money?

If you think the answer is put it back into the games to make quality content, you've been living under a rock. CA has a terrible reputation right now for a reason.

We're talking Warhammer 1 and 2 though. At best the redirection of resources that had the most negative impact (re Hyenas, Pharaoh, getting further behind in needed work for Warhammer 3) happened more or less concurrently with Warhammer 3. Before that at least CA's other projects were halfway decent and saw a release at least... yes, even if there were signs then presaging the fall of last year (as I posited many moons and threads ago)
That CA might need more money, time or both now is only cos they crashed so hard... their own dumb fault, sure, but those issues weren't necessarily mortal ones three or more years ago.

[Ardariel]

Originally posted by TheAlmightyProo:

Originally posted by veracsthane:

ill be honest despite having both 1 and 2 and all dlc i would recommend against buying either game unless you have under 1 min load times. it makes that much of a difference when you lose an hour in 30 turns to load times.

Tbf at this point anybody half serious about their gaming should be using storage up to the task. It says much that even the current consoles have standardised NVME, years after it became a thing on PC, and HDD is now an archival medium.

while i can somewhat agree, that is not netirely true. Most ofgames are still okay on HDD>. I`d even say, that it is rare to have game, that really need ssd. Even TWW2 would be okay if not for denuvo. That is sole reason for such HUUUUGE load times on HDD in this case.

I would not mind sdd-reliant game if it is improving gamer experience. But when it is for sole reason to ♥♥♥♥ gamr experience i am not in a mood to let it slide.

[veracsthane]

Originally posted by TheAlmightyProo:

Originally posted by veracsthane:

ill be honest despite having both 1 and 2 and all dlc i would recommend against buying either game unless you have under 1 min load times. it makes that much of a difference when you lose an hour in 30 turns to load times.

Tbf at this point anybody half serious about their gaming should be using storage up to the task. It says much that even the current consoles have standardised NVME, years after it became a thing on PC, and HDD is now an archival medium.

its not a storage issue. i honestly dont know what the problem is. i got the "gpu click infitie memory" error bs this computer meets the steam stores recommended and has an ssd i literally bought this computer because i was playing tww2 alot more then i currently am it was okay according to the store steam page.

i had an i7 before this computer that i ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up dusting it and it had all of the same issues. that one had 3 sticks of ram this one has 2 and agian i cant tell the diffrence between the two computers. the game has just never worked right for lord only knows what reason.

the only time i had decent load times was when i was using radius and achievements where disabled.

[veracsthane]

Originally posted by Ardariel:

Originally posted by TheAlmightyProo:

Tbf at this point anybody half serious about their gaming should be using storage up to the task. It says much that even the current consoles have standardised NVME, years after it became a thing on PC, and HDD is now an archival medium.

while i can somewhat agree, that is not netirely true. Most ofgames are still okay on HDD>. I`d even say, that it is rare to have game, that really need ssd. Even TWW2 would be okay if not for denuvo. That is sole reason for such HUUUUGE load times on HDD in this case.

I would not mind sdd-reliant game if it is improving gamer experience. But when it is for sole reason to ♥♥♥♥ gamr experience i am not in a mood to let it slide.

i played with my graphics settings and went from 5 to 2-3 min load times and the only thing i did was lower from ultra to high and the gpu i have exceeds the gpu recommended on the store page.

there is literally no reason that should effect load times. load times are the hard drive cpu and ram. anything else should never have any effect at all. the worst part is according to the gpu bs error message you do get the game auto degrades anyways. the only thing i can think of that has some sort of issue is the port where the ssd plugs into cuasing some sort of problem because it reads it as a usb or something.

and agian it doesnt explain why it magically worked okay with raidous.

[Valentine (Lunaticus)]

Originally posted by TheAlmightyProo:

Originally posted by Valentine (Lunaticus):

If you think the answer is put it back into the games to make quality content, you've been living under a rock. CA has a terrible reputation right now for a reason.

We're talking Warhammer 1 and 2 though. At best the redirection of resources that had the most negative impact (re Hyenas, Pharaoh, getting further behind in needed work for Warhammer 3) happened more or less concurrently with Warhammer 3. Before that at least CA's other projects were halfway decent and saw a release at least... yes, even if there were signs then presaging the fall of last year (as I posited many moons and threads ago)
That CA might need more money, time or both now is only cos they crashed so hard... their own dumb fault, sure, but those issues weren't necessarily mortal ones three or more years ago.

Then let's only look at this one issue in isolation then. Is a 60 euro/dollar (they seem to be the same price most of the time) price for a game mode a reasonable price to you? Cause for me that is not ok for me for ANY game. They've been greedy ass company for a long time, they've just been ramping it up even more over time, and only now people have finally woken up.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Originally posted by veracsthane:

Originally posted by TheAlmightyProo:

Tbf at this point anybody half serious about their gaming should be using storage up to the task. It says much that even the current consoles have standardised NVME, years after it became a thing on PC, and HDD is now an archival medium.

its not a storage issue. i honestly dont know what the problem is. i got the "gpu click infitie memory" error bs this computer meets the steam stores recommended and has an ssd i literally bought this computer because i was playing tww2 alot more then i currently am it was okay according to the store steam page.

i had an i7 before this computer that i ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up dusting it and it had all of the same issues. that one had 3 sticks of ram this one has 2 and agian i cant tell the diffrence between the two computers. the game has just never worked right for lord only knows what reason.

the only time i had decent load times was when i was using radius and achievements where disabled.

Except nothing disables achievements.

[Ardariel]

Originally posted by Valentine (Lunaticus):

Originally posted by TheAlmightyProo:

We're talking Warhammer 1 and 2 though. At best the redirection of resources that had the most negative impact (re Hyenas, Pharaoh, getting further behind in needed work for Warhammer 3) happened more or less concurrently with Warhammer 3. Before that at least CA's other projects were halfway decent and saw a release at least... yes, even if there were signs then presaging the fall of last year (as I posited many moons and threads ago)
That CA might need more money, time or both now is only cos they crashed so hard... their own dumb fault, sure, but those issues weren't necessarily mortal ones three or more years ago.

Then let's only look at this one issue in isolation then. Is a 60 euro/dollar (they seem to be the same price most of the time) price for a game mode a reasonable price to you? Cause for me that is not ok for me for ANY game. They've been greedy ass company for a long time, they've just been ramping it up even more over time, and only now people have finally woken up.

then dont buy it. You have ull game for 60 bicks anyway.

ME is just basically offer for owners of TWW1 so their game does not become obsolete. And, frankly, i is MUCH better offer, than any other franchise prvides, where release of next game makes previous one useless.

You COULD have a point, if there were no vortex campaign in TWW2. Then yes, this would be absolutely no excuse for such behaviour. But you do have full-fledged campaign. You are not getting robbed of anything. So only issue here remains, that tww1 still costs 60 bucks. But noone forces you to buy it. If people stop buying it for 60, price woulld decrease permanently. But they keep buying it. Cause it is a good offer.