Repanse de Lyonesse VS a Full Vampire Stack on turn 1 in Vortex Campaign for some reason?

[randomdude2424]

I really cant figure something out - whenever I start a campaign for Repanse on the Vortex campaign map, no matter the campaign difficulty, the very first army that you face, that is in smacking distance is a Vampire Count army of Strygod Empire - and it is an entire stack of undead with Cairn Wraiths and 4 units of Black Knights.

On the Mortal Empires map its half a stack, which is very quite manageable. But for some unknown reason to me, on Vortex there is this huge chad-vampire army. Auto resolve favours me, with half my army getting wiped out, but an actual fight is neigh impossible - 10 units vs an entire stack of undeath.

What is going on there? Is it a bug or? I have no mods installed.

[randomdude2424]

Hopefully this imgur link will work, otherwise not sure how can I show a screenshot.

https://imgur.com/a/kSPMKob

[kkc495]

Originally posted by randomdude2424:

I really cant figure something out - whenever I start a campaign for Repanse on the Vortex campaign map, no matter the campaign difficulty, the very first army that you face, that is in smacking distance is a Vampire Count army of Strygod Empire - and it is an entire stack of undead with Cairn Wraiths and 4 units of Black Knights.

On the Mortal Empires map its half a stack, which is very quite manageable. But for some unknown reason to me, on Vortex there is this huge chad-vampire army. Auto resolve favours me, with half my army getting wiped out, but an actual fight is neigh impossible - 10 units vs an entire stack of undeath.

What is going on there? Is it a bug or? I have no mods installed.

If it is a bug then it is by C.A.

[randomdude2424]

Originally posted by kkc495:

If it is a bug then it is by C.A.

Well, that doesnt help much

[Zane87]

Yeah that doesn't seem right. It certainly is "doable" but for the first, designated enemy army it is quite a bit much. Since I never touched Vortex after ME again I gotta ask... mods? ^^

[Sardorim]

Kill the leader and the rest start to collapse.

[randomdude2424]

Originally posted by Zane87:

Yeah that doesn't seem right. It certainly is "doable" but for the first, designated enemy army it is quite a bit much. Since I never touched Vortex after ME again I gotta ask... mods? ^^

I dont have any installed, and even those I used at some point wont help with that :P

[randomdude2424]

Originally posted by Sardorim:

Kill the leader and the rest start to collapse.

Cant get to the leader thru 8 units of meat.. err bone. They just surround and lvl 1 Repanse doesnt hit hard enough :/

As of more detailed googling, seems like the entire stack thing was introduced in the recent patch. Weird!

[Zane87]

Originally posted by randomdude2424:

Originally posted by Sardorim:

Kill the leader and the rest start to collapse.

Cant get to the leader thru 8 units of meat.. err bone. They just surround and lvl 1 Repanse doesnt hit hard enough :/

Im just wondering, is it everyones Vortex campaign going funko, or is it somehow only me? Could someone check their Repanse campaign?

Well....
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2362891183

I think I try that battle just for the fun of it. My game is modded but nothing should affect 1st turn either armies in battle ^^

[randomdude2424]

Originally posted by Zane87:

Originally posted by randomdude2424:

Cant get to the leader thru 8 units of meat.. err bone. They just surround and lvl 1 Repanse doesnt hit hard enough :/

Im just wondering, is it everyones Vortex campaign going funko, or is it somehow only me? Could someone check their Repanse campaign?

Well....
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2362891183

I think I try that battle just for the fun of it. My game is modded but nothing should affect 1st turn either armies in battle ^^

Best of luck :P

It probably is doable, but Im too brainlet to do that

Seems like you can auto-resolve it on normal with losing only 3 infantry units, so there is that at least.

[Ashley]

Some of the starting fights like Malus ME's fight are difficult. Honestly i'd just say auto resolve those. Auto resolve is far from always being accurate.

[Jezzar]

I started a Vortex Repanse campaign not too long ago, and that first fight threw me for a spin as well. I actually lost the battle initially, but retreated & was able to beat it later once I'd replenished my units & bought a few more.
Ultimately it isn't bugged, it's just how Repanse starts her campaign.

[randomdude2424]

Originally posted by Jezzar:

I started a Vortex Repanse campaign not too long ago, and that first fight threw me for a spin as well. I actually lost the battle initially, but retreated & was able to beat it later once I'd replenished my units & bought a few more.
Ultimately it isn't bugged, it's just how Repanse starts her campaign.

Yeah, seems that there are ways to do it, from autoresolve to just building more units over the next turn, but its definitely bugged, judging from the play-throughs and streams I have looked over from months ago. In all of those the Vampires have an easily manageable half-stack, just like in Mortal Empires.

Or its not a bug, just a weird change by CA (?).

[Zane87]

I have returned ^^ Was fun, but was quite close in the end. As the first battle it seems to be a bit much. The better approach likely is ambushing within starter settlements influence, AI will very likely take the bait, then you can kill them either in ambush or in normal battle with garrison.

Results
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2362918583
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2362919055

Starting formation
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2362919306

Baiting enemy cav
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2362919585
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2362919818

Things get chaotic
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2362920319

But finally
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2362920558

[yojimbo1111]

I usually hire a life prophetess and put Repanse in ambush near the city to avoid the 20 on 10 fight

[Hieronymus]

Put Repanse in ambush near the settlement and they will probably attack it.