Why goblin archers make so much damage on a 80 armor dwarf?

[Invisible]

Statwise they should do basicly no real damage . But minimum of 1 point of damage is guranteed. So 80 goblin archers can shoot down a basic dwarf unit with great wepons in due time dur to 80 points of damage per volley?

[Eldi]

Lots of 1's add up.
Your also not always doing 1, sometimes its more.

Iirc the higher the armour the higher the chance to negate the DMG but not always.

[Dregora]

Because it's not calculated like that.

[Eldi]

Quickest of googles
https://totalwarwarhammer.fandom.com/wiki/Combat

[Muerte]

Because CA forgot to nerf the Greenskins after their power creep dlc

[Danny Z. Ninja]

Of course Dwarf Warriors with Great Weapons would melt under missile fire; they lack shields.

[Invisible]

Originalmente postado por Eldi:

Quickest of googles
https://totalwarwarhammer.fandom.com/wiki/Combat

This just for melee not for ranged.

[Rack]

Becouse they do some AP damage that goes always through Armor.

The thing is - Armor isn't that useful as you would think. Missile resistance and melee defense are more important stats

[Invisible]

Originalmente postado por Danny Z. Ninja:

Of course Dwarf Warriors with Great Weapons would melt under missile fire; they lack shields.

Si senior, but dwars shield (as WH1 race) give only 35%. All the funky WH2 races have 55%.

In armour tooltip is to read (how resistant is unit is to missle fire and melee attacks.

[Invisible]

Originalmente postado por Rack:

Becouse they do some AP damage that goes always through Armor.

The thing is - Armor isn't that useful as you would think. Missile resistance and melee defense are more important stats

Exactly 1 AP

[Eldi]

Originalmente postado por Invisible:

Originalmente postado por Eldi:

Quickest of googles
https://totalwarwarhammer.fandom.com/wiki/Combat

This just for melee not for ranged.

Oh sorry. Isn't armour the same for both?

[Aleera]

Armor is a powerfull stat yes, but it's not the end all.

So, in a vaccuum, no external effects, just a a great weapon dwarf warrior vs a goblin archer unit. No lord buffs, no research, no scrap upgrades etc.

A goblin Archer does 1 AP damage per shot and 10 base damage.
Great weapon dwarf warrior has 85 armor.

Armor stops between half of it's value, up to it's max value in a percentage against base damage. Using the 85 armor of the Dwarf Warrior, we get a value of 42.5% and 85% damage stopped of 10 base missile damage.

Meaning the Dwarf armor negates 4 to 9 damage per arrow.
The goblins, per arrow, hit for 2 to 7 damage. Averaging on 5 ish damage.

5 damage is ALOT more then the 1 damage you think they do.

Now, if the goblins had the 400% AP scrap upgrade, the damage would get a flat +4 up to 6 to 11 damage per arrow hit on a dwarf warrior.

Edit: this is ofcourse PER goblin archer, the stack has 120 goblins, you can see how quickly the damage adds up.

[pascal.difolco]

On 80 shooters maybe only half will hit a figure..then shields will stop again like 1/3..
Soon you got like 30hp damage done only

[Eldi]

Is armour the same for ranged Vs melee?
Genuine question as I thought it was.

[Aleera]

Originalmente postado por pascal.difolco:

On 80 shooters maybe only half will hit a figure..then shields will stop again like 1/3..
Soon you got like 30hp damage done only

1, no shields. Op said unshielded, greatweapons.
2, each arrow does way more damage then you assume and give credit for.
3, way more then half will find a target.

[Invisible]

Originalmente postado por Eldi:

Is armour the same for ranged Vs melee?
Genuine question as I thought it was.

Ranged is not that good documented as Melee.