pub order - Military presence bonus dropping to +6 in some places, seems to be bug

[Chief Minister of Gaming]

Because my long understanding of mechanics, it should be +20 for full stack, and perhaps there might be some difference depending on the neg pub order or not (this was atilla)

However, I have many many games, I get cities that will only pub order +6, and there is no rhyme or reason to it, even with top level 20 stack, no +20 military presence, even when city way in the red.

This seems to last forever on in my game, if I am missing something let me know, but I cannot work it out

Note: All games start out with +20 military presence and I get the bonus.

It seems as the game progresses, my cities bug out eventually, and only get max +6 no matter what.

Can anyone concur? The only mechanics I know did this was Atilla, when reduced the bonus when you were in the positive, or not totally bad public order.
but in warhammer, I dont see this changing.
I get many 20 stacks that only get +6 public bonus in settlements no matter what, and it never changes for the rest of the game once this happens.

Very interested to see about this, as I cannot work it out, and can only see it being buggy, that some settlements I can only get max +6 military presence for the rest of the game,

I understand the Atilla mechanic ( and I am talking about warhammer here) about the divider, when close to the full positive stack pub order is divide by 3, yet my observation, is this does not happen in warhammer. Yet mine bugs out that I only get +6 for many settlements after a while for public order no matter what, with a full 20 stack of units, even with powerful units.

I will keep observing, but this seems to happen to a settlement, and then its capped at max +6 from military presence forever on. It seems that way, let me keep observing.

[Garatgh Deloi]

They have a balancing public order system that gravitates towards 0 in Warhammer 2 since a few patches back.

If you have high public order you get a penalty, if you have low public order you get a boost.

Its much harder for places to rebel, but its also much harder to reach the high public order bonuses.

[Chief Minister of Gaming]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

They have a balancing public order system that gravitates towards 0 in Warhammer 2 since a few patches back.

If you have high public order you get a penalty, if you have low public order you get a boost.

Its much harder for places to rebel, but its also much harder to reach the high public order bonuses.

keep monitoring, then its like atilla mechanic then, except I am not getting the booster when city very low PO for some cities.
And when I was looking at my main capital at the start when in fairly positive I was getting +20 at the start of the game

I am at -57 in one place, and only getting +6. And this is my claim, it gets stuck on +6 forever bug, it appears this way, and I cannot say I am missing something some other element, if so let me know here.

but in the -57 place, it should be +20 if the old attila mechanic is active

it seems as all my games progress, after the early turns, I get all my cities capped at +6, military presence, when playing skaven, this seems to happen no matter how low the public order drops.

Keep monitoring, let me know if anyone can show me something I am missing, why not bugged out, etc. cheers

[Reaper415]

Military presence is divided by cities in the province. At the start you only have one city, lets say, so you'll get the full benefit of the PO. Once you capture more cities in the province, the PO bonus seems to get divided between them and why you see +6 instead of +20. Easy way to verify this is to monitor an enemy province. If they have a full province, you'll see military presence bonus at +6 even if they have a full stack garrisoned in one of their cities. However, if they're down to 1 city in said province, they get +20 military presence bonus PO.

[Chief Minister of Gaming]

Originally posted by Reaper415:

Military presence is divided by cities in the province. At the start you only have one city, lets say, so you'll get the full benefit of the PO. Once you capture more cities in the province, the PO bonus seems to get divided between them and why you see +6 instead of +20. Easy way to verify this is to monitor an enemy province. If they have a full province, you'll see military presence bonus at +6 even if they have a full stack garrisoned in one of their cities. However, if they're down to 1 city in said province, they get +20 military presence bonus PO.

Ah, thanks for pointing it out, without understanding this I am left confused.

Cheers

[Aleera]

Originally posted by Reaper415:

Military presence is divided by cities in the province. At the start you only have one city, lets say, so you'll get the full benefit of the PO. Once you capture more cities in the province, the PO bonus seems to get divided between them and why you see +6 instead of +20. Easy way to verify this is to monitor an enemy province. If they have a full province, you'll see military presence bonus at +6 even if they have a full stack garrisoned in one of their cities. However, if they're down to 1 city in said province, they get +20 military presence bonus PO.

Huh, never knew this. Learned something new. Thank you :)