Is it me or are the Elector Counts useless ?

[MF]

I admit I started the Reikland campaign understanding diddly squat about fealty and imperial authority but managed to figure it out in time to keep my imperial authority at even keel. By turn 90 I only have 3 that I haven't managed to confederate. I took out all the vampires, Clan Moulder and the first initial chaos invasion. At no time did any one of those useless peckerwoods do a g*dd*m thing to help me. Sure they were happy when I gave them some of their settlements back but it's not like they earned it. You can't even make defensive alliances with them............... which if you think about it is dumb.

I only have 3 electors left and I note that one of them is back down to a fealty of only 3. I'm sure he was closer to 10 at one point - not sure what pissed him off. It's not like he lost any effing troops fighting off the chaos invasion or the rats. Nooooo..... uncle Franz had to do that on his behalf.

Once I finish genociding the Norsca I have half a mind to come south declare war on this prat.

[wpegg]

Yes, your challenge as the empire is to build a defensive border around a load of children that cannot fend for themselves until you have managed to convince them to confederate with you, and you've built up enough imperial authority that it doesn't harm you. It's not a very good campaign mechanic. This involves conquering Bretonnia and Kislev so that you can defend their lands and soak up the aggression, as well as the border princes and possibly the mountains if the orcs have taken them.

[MF]

Originally posted by wpegg:

Yes, your challenge as the empire is to build a defensive border around a load of children that cannot fend for themselves until you have managed to convince them to confederate with you, and you've built up enough imperial authority that it doesn't harm you. It's not a very good campaign mechanic. This involves conquering Bretonnia and Kislev so that you can defend their lands and soak up the aggression, as well as the border princes and possibly the mountains if the orcs have taken them.

LMAO....... beautifully said. That's it exactly. Not sure about Kislev and the Frenchies - I wound up becoming their allies. The Elector counts though ? Like trying to herd cats.

[The Hermit Gamer]

Elector counts are weak, but are very easy to revive and will build up provinces for you with AI growth/money cheats for easy confederation. Honestly makes the Empire campaign fun to me since you just focus on fighting while holding Riekland and when you've farmed enough authority you start expanding easily and grabbing a bunch of Tier 5 provinces for free.

[MF]

Originally posted by The Hermit Gamer:

Elector counts are weak, but are very easy to revive and will build up provinces for you with AI growth/money cheats for easy confederation. Honestly makes the Empire campaign fun to me since you just focus on fighting while holding Riekland and when you've farmed enough authority you start expanding easily and grabbing a bunch of Tier 5 provinces for free.

Well I can't argue with that. Frankly, this is the most interesting campaign yet. In my case, being able to confederate happened at just the right time because I desperately needed the additional armies to swoop down and eliminate Clan Moulder. I do not enjoy fighting rat armies swarming with laser guns and nukes. One turn, five settlements blitzkrieged. Bing bang boom done. Then I turned east with overwhelming force and ambushed four chaos armies in rapid succession.

Yes men.............. join the Empire !! Uncle Franz wants YOU !!

[grognardgary]

A few of them once confederated are very useful but prior to that they've a tendency to pick fights they cannot win with people they have no reason to fight including each other

[MF]

Originally posted by grognardgary:

A few of them once confederated are very useful but prior to that they've a tendency to pick fights they cannot win with people they have no reason to fight including each other

Essentially they're a pack of mean girls.

[grognardgary]

Originally posted by MF:

Originally posted by grognardgary:

A few of them once confederated are very useful but prior to that they've a tendency to pick fights they cannot win with people they have no reason to fight including each other

Essentially they're a pack of mean girls.

But not as smart.

[Lotor13]

I prefer to play Empire in WH1 or WH2

WH Empire is badly designated IMO

[MF]

Originally posted by Lotor13:

I prefer to play Empire in WH1 or WH2

WH Empire is badly designated IMO

I'm playing WH2. I've checked WH3 and it looks ghastly compared to WH2. (Whoever was in charge of selecting color palettes should be flayed alive) I'll eventually play the newer factions and lords on WH3, but for the classics I'll be sticking to WH2.