Auto-resolve--entire army wiped out always?

[Shadowhawk]

I've done two auto-resolves in a row and it seems my army is completely wiped out. Not a single survivor. Is this intended or am I missing something? Can there ever be an auto-resolved battle where there are survivors?

[franz]

Yes , you just need better troops or more troops . Or more exp on your lord .

[It's Shas]

First of all you shouldn't auto resolve battles where it says anything about defeats.
Secondly if you hover over the auto resolve button it will most likely show you which troops you will lose.
Most battles that are pyrrhic victorys or lower should be played, except for a few cases.

Quick example, I had a pyrrhic victory in auto resolve as Count Noctilus with mid tier units full stack against a full stack dwar pirate lord army. Played it and got completly annihilated.
Some units / combos have more auto resolve power than actuall power when you play them. You need to get a feel for that though.

But from what you describe you auto resolve battles you will just straight up loose anyways and those are better played most of the time or to be avoided ;)

[Egoburger]

certain battles have no survivors when attacked, like when in a city or in marching stance

[Jeslis]

What faction were you, and what army units did you have?

eg; If you autoresolve as Skaven with 20 units of clanrats and artillery, you'll lose every time.

But if you have ~8 Death Globe Bombadiers/Flamethrower rats and 11 Stormvermin/Clanrats, you'll win just about any autoresolve.

[Elitewrecker PT]

If there's nowhere to retreat after losing the first auto-resolve, or you've already been defeated once in that turn, the defeat will always kill your whole army.

[Fear2288]

The whole force will get wiped out in AR if you’re defending a settlement, getting ambushed, your army’s in march stance, or it’s the second time that army has been attacked that turn.

It also may not allow retreat if you’re in underway/world root/beastpath stance too.

Beyond that, it just depends on how badly you’re gonna get beat. If the AR decides that your army is just so much worse than the AI’s then yeah, it’s possible that they’ll wipe you out on the first round.

The one I really hate is when it tells you you’re gonna win a Pyrrhic victory and then you hit the button only to find the AI changes it’s mind and you’ve been dealt a valiant defeat.

Gotta admit, one of the unspoken helpful parts of W3 is that selecting your army and then hovering over an enemy force will give you an AR preview in the tooltip.

[grognardgary]

Originally posted by It's Shas:

First of all you shouldn't auto resolve battles where it says anything about defeats.
Secondly if you hover over the auto resolve button it will most likely show you which troops you will lose.
Most battles that are pyrrhic victorys or lower should be played, except for a few cases.

Quick example, I had a pyrrhic victory in auto resolve as Count Noctilus with mid tier units full stack against a full stack dwar pirate lord army. Played it and got completly annihilated.
Some units / combos have more auto resolve power than actuall power when you play them. You need to get a feel for that though.

But from what you describe you auto resolve battles you will just straight up loose anyways and those are better played most of the time or to be avoided ;)

To one of you points auto resolve is different with every faction type and army type within that faction. A few interesting things of note, however, You're playing empire and you have a unit of cavalry in your army as both Franz and Volkmar do early Close and Pyrrhic victories, will almost always kill your cavalry on auto resolve. It also tends to take casualties from units you can least easily replace no matter what.

[Mr Robert House]

Manually fighting battles is how you’re going to have to play most of the time, AR is for easy fights that you couldn’t lose even if you went afk, or for uneinnable fights (even unwinnable fights can be worth fighting to delete specific units)

I should say, you can build armies for auto resolve, but then if AR gives you a defeat, your screwed, because it’s you’re only option.

[Shadowhawk]

Originally posted by Jeslis:

What faction were you, and what army units did you have?

eg; If you autoresolve as Skaven with 20 units of clanrats and artillery, you'll lose every time.

But if you have ~8 Death Globe Bombadiers/Flamethrower rats and 11 Stormvermin/Clanrats, you'll win just about any autoresolve.

I was using Tomb Kings.

[Shadowhawk]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

If there's nowhere to retreat after losing the first auto-resolve, or you've already been defeated once in that turn, the defeat will always kill your whole army.

What about if I have no more move points left? Will that result in army annihilation? Because I think that's what happened to me.

[Xaphnir]

Generally auto-resolve results in the losing army being wiped out. Sometimes a unit or two will survive at very low health, but don't count on it. If auto-resolve says your army loses, expect the army to be wiped if you auto-resolve.

[Shadowhawk]

Originally posted by Xaphnir:

Generally auto-resolve results in the losing army being wiped out. Sometimes a unit or two will survive at very low health, but don't count on it. If auto-resolve says your army loses, expect the army to be wiped if you auto-resolve.

Why is it designed that way? When I lose in a manual battle, my guys will rout and some will survive.

[hulahoopah]

Originally posted by Shadowhawk:

Originally posted by Xaphnir:

Generally auto-resolve results in the losing army being wiped out. Sometimes a unit or two will survive at very low health, but don't count on it. If auto-resolve says your army loses, expect the army to be wiped if you auto-resolve.

Why is it designed that way? When I lose in a manual battle, my guys will rout and some will survive.

Depends on if youre in a stance or not, if you've retreated already, if you have any movement left, if you're in a settlement and can't move, if you're surrounded by armies, unless it's a really difficult battle, try and fight it, try and see if there is any way for you to win, depending on what the enemy faction is, whether it be corner camping, wasting enemy ammo, hiding stuff in trees, etc.. just try and experiment, and don't get annoyed, just try to reload and try again.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Originally posted by Shadowhawk:

Originally posted by Xaphnir:

Generally auto-resolve results in the losing army being wiped out. Sometimes a unit or two will survive at very low health, but don't count on it. If auto-resolve says your army loses, expect the army to be wiped if you auto-resolve.

Why is it designed that way? When I lose in a manual battle, my guys will rout and some will survive.

Auto-resolve isn't a proper representation of a manual battle.

[Mr Robert House]

Originally posted by Shadowhawk:

Originally posted by Xaphnir:

Generally auto-resolve results in the losing army being wiped out. Sometimes a unit or two will survive at very low health, but don't count on it. If auto-resolve says your army loses, expect the army to be wiped if you auto-resolve.

Why is it designed that way? When I lose in a manual battle, my guys will rout and some will survive.

Probably so when two ai factions go up against each other, they don’t end up with like 10 stacks of a lord and a couple of damaged units running all over the map.

Also, it can be useful, since when you win it wipes the ai out, which is hard to do manually without like 4 units of cav