Legendary Dwarves Campaign Impossible (Karak Kadrin)

[Nequis]

Now after completing my first legendary campaign with the Empire (the start was a pain but still manageable by min-maxing battles etc.) but damn Ungrim's is outright impossible to win.

My last 5 attempts:

1st: Get Gnashrak and after beating up 3x 20/20 RedEyes stacks they come with a double one of Vet 8 big huns....

2nd: I try turtling in Karak Kadrin juggling buildings to get grudgethrowers and xbows,all goes well until i get bumrushed by 3x20 stacks of RedEyes

3rd: I rush Gnashrak then do some back and forth while upping my main fortress,vampires declare war on me,despite this i managed to singlehandedly wipe 2x20 stacks of redeyes and rush back to kadrin to wipe 2x stacks of VCs (all of them with graveguards and vargs),next turn other 2x20 of vampires show up outta thin air

4th: I try giving some gold to VCs so they don't attack me so early,repeat previous tactics,Ostermark wipes the RedEyes while i get wiped by Nakai (for some reason i had lizardmen declare war on me and show up at my door at turn 20) after i was weakened by 2x red eyes stacks

5th: Damn i'm killing it,managed to not get attacked by vampires while capturing karak ungor in the north and 10x redeyes stacks later (cause ♥♥♥♥ AI ultra cheat mode) Zhufbar decides to declare war on Thorgrim,i manage to cap my home region and ungor by turn 50,just as i was about to get a breather i get attacked by Grimgor (cause of course all the other dwarf factions got wiped out by turn 20 somehow) who comes all the way up with 6 stacks who spawn other 2 waagh ones.



Now,besides triumphing every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ battle,how is someone even supposed to beat this ♥♥♥♥? All the factions hate you,other dwarves included if they do not die out in 10 turns. How the ♥♥♥♥ do you play this?

[Gamefever]

I've done the Hard/Hard campaign for him.

I went straight after getting Grudge Throwers then disassembled the building cause dont need it sitting around.

Was fairly aggressive didnt wait for a full stack before I started attacking the Orcs for the holds.

After you get those gold mines there really is not a lot of advice to give as those cement your kingdom in gold.

[Sn3z]

Its just a mess really that area could get a rework to clean things up and it is, Red Eye is being nerfed and will no longer control a capital just the minor settlements in your region so it should help you get a better start. Red mountain and a new minor settlement Karak Raziak is controlled by Azhag.

[Zephif cp_dustbowl team]

I've done a legendary Ungrim campaign, It is possible.

[zefyris]

I've done one legendary karak kadrin around november last year. The first 15-20 turns are really tough; if you make a single wrong move you can restart your campaign.
Turtling will never work afaik. And yeah until you get like the 4 mountain provinces north of the silver road stabilised, you can't afford to lose a single battle either. After that you still have to deal with black krag spamming greenskins stack after greenskins stack but if you can go through that the rest is relatively easy as the dwarves economy will start to kick in.

Karak Kadrin is one of the toughest Legendary campaign start right now imo.
never had Nakai coming down there though, that's an interesting one.

[Deximo Roger]

lolz...you haven't read the books. The Dwarves are all doomed in the end times. Not one dwarven kingdom has things go well for them in the lore of Warhammer. If you manage to survive at all, you've beaten the odds already.

[Edgewalker]

Originally posted by Nequis:

Now after completing my first legendary campaign with the Empire (the start was a pain but still manageable by min-maxing battles etc.) but damn Ungrim's is outright impossible to win.

My last 5 attempts:

1st: Get Gnashrak and after beating up 3x 20/20 RedEyes stacks they come with a double one of Vet 8 big huns....

2nd: I try turtling in Karak Kadrin juggling buildings to get grudgethrowers and xbows,all goes well until i get bumrushed by 3x20 stacks of RedEyes

3rd: I rush Gnashrak then do some back and forth while upping my main fortress,vampires declare war on me,despite this i managed to singlehandedly wipe 2x20 stacks of redeyes and rush back to kadrin to wipe 2x stacks of VCs (all of them with graveguards and vargs),next turn other 2x20 of vampires show up outta thin air

4th: I try giving some gold to VCs so they don't attack me so early,repeat previous tactics,Ostermark wipes the RedEyes while i get wiped by Nakai (for some reason i had lizardmen declare war on me and show up at my door at turn 20) after i was weakened by 2x red eyes stacks

5th: Damn i'm killing it,managed to not get attacked by vampires while capturing karak ungor in the north and 10x redeyes stacks later (cause ♥♥♥♥ AI ultra cheat mode) Zhufbar decides to declare war on Thorgrim,i manage to cap my home region and ungor by turn 50,just as i was about to get a breather i get attacked by Grimgor (cause of course all the other dwarf factions got wiped out by turn 20 somehow) who comes all the way up with 6 stacks who spawn other 2 waagh ones.



Now,besides triumphing every ♥♥♥♥ing battle,how is someone even supposed to beat this ♥♥♥♥? All the factions hate you,other dwarves included if they do not die out in 10 turns. How the ♥♥♥♥ do you play this?

I had the exactly same experience as Karak Kadrin Legendary. Even damn Teclis ME is easier.

My best attempt:

- obviously all other dwarves died by turn 20,
- Sylvania no1 strength ranking running rampant through the empire,
- Grimgor confederated everything and with 25 settlements economy pushed all his forces on mount Gunbad with multiple waaaghs around turn 45
- multiple skaven invasions from everywhere, I honestly don't know how many. Worst of them wiped my main army (it was my only defeat) though losing about 90% of their numbers. I've managed to push them back later on.
- all neutral rogue armies coming from all around the world with only one intent - raid my teritory. Signing non aggression with them did nothing.

I've fought like crazy doing 1-2, sometimes 3 manual battles every turn for 100 turns. I've managed to pull out dozens of impossible victories, killed all invaders and pushed the Grimgor and Eshin back and back and back. I've reached Africa and Tomb Kings killing Orks and Skaven each and every turn. Relentless enemy wave never stopped coming.
When I finally killed them all (turn 100) I've checked northern tribes and it turned out that the one that is my victory objective confederated/conquered 30 settlements and is reaching as far as Naggarond. Empire was mostly taken by VC and Skaven. I realised that after all I've done I'm further away from victory than I was on turn 1.
That's when I gave up :P

[Raider Deci]

Thx to the new orc-faction Kadrin-start is a little bit different. But you dont have to rush a major settlement anymore so getting rid of red eye is easier than it used to.

But that starting-hero is your best friend. Use him to scout, dont be afraid to set up ambushes. Try to be aggressive. I usually try to get some crossbows early for extra killing power, then ditch the barracks and build wall. Same with the slayer shrine, just build some slayers at the start then ditch it for a money-building

Do not get bogged down for too long, they will overwhelm you. After red eye is dead consolidate the region a bit.

[yuzhonglu]

Ah, Dwarves, the faction of suck. You know what would help? Mages. Especially fire mages. Guess what? DWARVES DON'T GET MAGES.