Invocation of Vaul - Save Scum Solution

[Earofcorn001]

I don't know if anyone else is having this problem, but I have...

I've been playing as the High Elves and I researched the different items obtainable from Invocation of Vaul and got really excited. However, some items were really hard for me to get. Also, it seems that save scumming doesn't work (at least for me), as every time I reloaded a save right before performing the Rite of Invocation of Vaul, it would give me the same results.

I've now found a solution that I wanted to share, as I've been loading and reloading saves, altering things to try and change the RNG chances for different results from the Rite nigh on a couple hours now...

First, if you're having this problem, don't try moving units, changing building orders, or letting a couple turns pass before doing the invocation... None of those seem to work to change the results of the Rite. You'll keep getting the same results.

What I just tried and works, is (make sure you have incremental autosaves turned on) going BACK to the previous turn (before the Rite is available again), just before you ended the turn. Let the game process the whole turn again and let it initialize the Rite all over again. SAVE HERE (E.G. "Invocation of Vaul Roll 4") and then do the Rite, see your results, if you don't like it, open your "Invocation of Vaul Roll 4" save again, perform the Rite, and the results should be different.

However, if you still don't like the results of your (for example) "Invocation of Vaul Roll 4," the only way to get different results is to again go back to your previous turn's autosave, reload, let the turn elapse, let the Rite become available again, save, perform the Rite (just to check, it takes 3 extra seconds), and then load the new save (E.G. "Invocation of Vaul Roll 5"), perform the Rite, and VWALLA, you should have a new set of choices.

This frustrated the crap out of me so I had to share. I hope it helps people who are / were finding the same problem I was.

Now we can all stack our top heroes with those stellar items like the Ring of Hukon, the Chest of Sustenance, or whatever you want.

Also, one last thing to note: I just asked, in a previous post, how modifiers work in battle and got an answer from the developers... It appears that modifiers stack from ALL participating armies (Lords and Heroes). So if you have a Ring of Hukon (+30% loot from battle) on a reinforcing army, you can have ANOTHER different item for that slot on your main, lead army, which is freaking sweat in my opinion. This makes some amazing possibilities of combinations or modifiers for battles.

Good Luck :)

[Wh♂♂par]

The rolls are seeded, meaning you just need to do anything that uses one of the seeded RN's. Agent actions - diplomacy potentially - anything like that.

Edit: I've just re-read one bit, was that VWALLA a joke or something? (Voilà)

[Earofcorn001]

Originally posted by Wh♂♂par:

The rolls are seeded, meaning you just need to do anything that uses one of the seeded RN's. Agent actions - diplomacy potentially - anything like that.

Edit: I've just re-read one bit, was that VWALLA a joke or something? (Voilà)

Okay, I'm feeling kind of stupid, and not just because I spelled Voila wrong (I thought that was just a sound, not a literal word.. like "huh" or "hrmph").

I'm still not sure what seeded RN's are. Can you explain? I tried speeding through a couple turns, maybe I didn't do the correct actions to use the "seeded RN's."

[Wh♂♂par]

I thought, because of the caps, it's an insider I don't know! Don't feel bad, you learnt something new!

Random number(s), from RNG. That was unclear from me, though!

[TebiCake]

I can confirm that a hero action will reroll it. No need to be reloading unless you have no free heroes lol

Got the cheeky diamond guard