Total War: WARHAMMER II

Total War: WARHAMMER II

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ikko Jul 27, 2020 @ 9:22am
Can someone explain what is the connection between Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40k?
Is 40k supposed to be a continuation of the story after the Chaos invasion destroyed the world, or is it like an alternative universe that's only loosely connected?
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Dagy47 Jul 27, 2020 @ 9:23am 
its alternate universe
Dagy47 Jul 27, 2020 @ 9:24am 
basicly GW first made Warhammer fantasy battles, and then later they got drunk and were like "oy how about we just take all theese fantasy races, and put them into future" and so 40k was born....
Toby Larone Jul 27, 2020 @ 9:25am 
Alternative universe that was once connected but that GW has taken steps to cut apart more and more even before the end times. Filling the last few holes in AoS.
ikko Jul 27, 2020 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by Dagy47:
basicly GW first made Warhammer fantasy battles, and then later they got drunk and were like "oy how about we just take all theese fantasy races, and put them into future" and so 40k was born....

So it is connected then, like the Empire of Man is supposed to be The Empire only in the far future?
christiansenm7 Jul 27, 2020 @ 9:32am 
It's a separate universe entirely.
𝒦ℒℬ (Banned) Jul 27, 2020 @ 9:35am 
Apparently the connection is the chaos gods.
but apart from that, one sucks, the other doesn't.
Dagy47 Jul 27, 2020 @ 9:43am 
Originally posted by ikko:
Originally posted by Dagy47:
basicly GW first made Warhammer fantasy battles, and then later they got drunk and were like "oy how about we just take all theese fantasy races, and put them into future" and so 40k was born....

So it is connected then, like the Empire of Man is supposed to be The Empire only in the far future?
well its connected in the way off being made by the same company and under the same label, filled with similar stuff, but thats about it..... you could say one is offshoot of the other if that helps..
Garatgh Deloi Jul 27, 2020 @ 9:57am 
Originally posted by ikko:
Is 40k supposed to be a continuation of the story after the Chaos invasion destroyed the world, or is it like an alternative universe that's only loosely connected?

From what i have heard (Do note that this is believable hearsay at most, no real confirmations anywhere):

Originally Warhammer 40k was a parody of fantasy (that took place in the same universe with the fantasy world just being one world in said universe). However given the huge interest in 40k they quickly scrapped that and made it a proper standalone setting.

Now days they are not connected in anyway, but they do still have similarities from when they were.
Last edited by Garatgh Deloi; Jul 27, 2020 @ 9:59am
Liviu222 Jul 27, 2020 @ 10:05am 
Nothing to do with fantasy except the chaos gods
Zoie Shales Jul 27, 2020 @ 10:10am 
Originally posted by ikko:
Can someone explain what is the connection between Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40k?


Is 40k supposed to be a continuation of the story after the Chaos invasion destroyed the world, or is it like an alternative universe that's only loosely connected?

Age of Sigmar is the "continuation of the story after the Chaos invasion destroyed the world", 40K is a different universe entirely.
Last edited by Zoie Shales; Jul 27, 2020 @ 10:11am
Toby Larone Jul 27, 2020 @ 10:34am 
Originally posted by ikko:
Originally posted by Dagy47:
basicly GW first made Warhammer fantasy battles, and then later they got drunk and were like "oy how about we just take all theese fantasy races, and put them into future" and so 40k was born....

So it is connected then, like the Empire of Man is supposed to be The Empire only in the far future?

No the Warhammer 40k started out as the idea of warhammer fantasy in space using similar factions and such. The imperium was never the empire in the far future just like the edlar are elves in space but not high elves in space.
Amon Chakai Jul 27, 2020 @ 10:39am 
Fandom theory: the Chaos god Slaanesh came into being through the corruption of the Eldar in official 40K Lore. So the 40K universe is actually the prequel to the Fantasy universe.
YMFTCTB Jul 27, 2020 @ 11:07am 
Originally posted by Ꞣℒദ . .:
Apparently the connection is the chaos gods.
but apart from that, one sucks, the other doesn't.
are you saying warhammer fantasy sucks? because im pretty sure 40k wouldnt have done so well if it was the one that sucked. only one of them had to stop because of not making enough money, to my knowledge
Crow Jul 27, 2020 @ 11:31am 
I believe its the same universe but just an obscure (but very important) planet. The old ones and the chaos gods are consistent in 40k lore, and would fit in if you looked at the timeline of WHF. Its really just an underdeveloped world outside the reach of the imperium or whatever headcanon you want to believe at that rate.
Last edited by Crow; Jul 27, 2020 @ 11:34am
Toby Larone Jul 27, 2020 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by Crow:
I believe its the same universe but just an obscure (but very important) planet. The old ones and the chaos gods are consistent in 40k lore, and would fit in if you looked at the timeline of WHF. Its really just an underdeveloped world outside the reach of the imperium or whatever headcanon you want to believe at that rate.

Proven wrong by the fact that slananesh existed by the time the old ones disapeared in fantasy while in 40k they were long gone before that point.
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Date Posted: Jul 27, 2020 @ 9:22am
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