Anyone have a Ryzen 7 2700X?

[Guts]

Particularly in tandem with a GTX 1070. How's your performance?

I'm still rocking an i7-2600K and I can hear its agonizing screams when there's more than five units in a scrap. This is my favorite game ever and it's made me willing to upgrade the ol' ticker.

[RED /(Weber)\]

I'm using a Ryzen 5. I think you should upgrade.

[Guts]

Originally posted by RED Floyd /(Weber)\:

I'm using a Ryzen 5. I think you should upgrade.

I agree. Was considering getting an Intel CPU because of their stronger single core performance, but the difference isn't massive far as I can tell and that price to performance ratio for Ryzen is so spicy.

[RED /(Weber)\]

Originally posted by White Wolf:

Originally posted by RED Floyd /(Weber)\:

I'm using a Ryzen 5. I think you should upgrade.

I agree. Was considering getting an Intel CPU because of their stronger single core performance, but the difference isn't massive far as I can tell and that price to performance ratio for Ryzen is so spicy.

For sure, my previous cpu was actually an I7-4600, and I've found thus far any latest AMD or Intel cpu is a biiiig step up. Far as I'm concerned 970's and 1070s are well built, they may as well nearly last forever.

[Guts]

Originally posted by RED Floyd /(Weber)\:

Originally posted by White Wolf:

I agree. Was considering getting an Intel CPU because of their stronger single core performance, but the difference isn't massive far as I can tell and that price to performance ratio for Ryzen is so spicy.

For sure, my previous cpu was actually an I7-4600, and I've found thus far any latest AMD or Intel cpu is a biiiig step up. Far as I'm concerned 970's and 1070s are well built, they may as well nearly last forever.

That was my reasoning behind upgrading the GPU when I did.

How is your performance?

I play on large unit scale, and whenever there's more than two stacks involved need to turn the shadows off. 30 fps is pretty much a given once the lines meet and the whole mess gets to calculating. Any attempt at ultra unit scale is a big no-go.

[RED /(Weber)\]

Originally posted by White Wolf:

Originally posted by RED Floyd /(Weber)\:

For sure, my previous cpu was actually an I7-4600, and I've found thus far any latest AMD or Intel cpu is a biiiig step up. Far as I'm concerned 970's and 1070s are well built, they may as well nearly last forever.

That was my reasoning behind upgrading the GPU when I did.

How is your performance?

I play on large unit scale, and whenever there's more than two stacks involved need to turn the shadows off. 30 fps is pretty much a given once the lines meet and the whole mess gets to calculating. Any attempt at ultra unit scale is a big no-go.

My previous build was from 2015, and I just took everything out and put in all the latest parts. Everything works very smoothly at 60 fps, or maybe 55 FPS, hard to say, I went from a 970 to 5700 XT, in addition to the I7 to Ryzen5. Thus far, it all still runs very smoothly, especially at large unit scale. I do however keep shadows on low to keep some level of processing up.

But for the most part, when units collide, and you're looking at them all at once, it runs perfectly smoothly.

[Savok]

I have one but with a 1080Ti. Notably however I've turned of Precision Boost 2 in the BIOS because the fan noise was bothering me too much so it's slightly slower..

The benchmark tool the game has is 114 or so on average, I think the lowest it dipped was 80. A steady 60 fps should be achievable for you, outside of maybe a skeleton spam Vampire Count army on ultra.

[KellyR]

I'm using a Ryzen 7 2700, but not the 2700X. With a GTX 1060.

Game runs fine for me.

Went with the 2700 over the 2700X because the TDP between the two has a significant jump, and I was trying to build as competent a gaming system as possible with as low a power consumption as possible.

[bearfieldlee]

Originally posted by White Wolf:

Originally posted by RED Floyd /(Weber)\:

For sure, my previous cpu was actually an I7-4600, and I've found thus far any latest AMD or Intel cpu is a biiiig step up. Far as I'm concerned 970's and 1070s are well built, they may as well nearly last forever.

That was my reasoning behind upgrading the GPU when I did.

How is your performance?

I play on large unit scale, and whenever there's more than two stacks involved need to turn the shadows off. 30 fps is pretty much a given once the lines meet and the whole mess gets to calculating. Any attempt at ultra unit scale is a big no-go.

There are some steps you can take in game and with mods that will dramaticaly increase performance.
Try a mod called "Performance maker for massive battles plus Warhammer shaders" and another one called "Blob shadows". The second one allows you to turn off ingame shadows and set unit markers to permanent as it transforms them into little shadowesque discs under each unit so that the units still look nicely grounded without the performance impact of actual shadows.

The game looks and performs amazingly for me with those 2 mods on. Also, and this is obviously just my opinion but I think that medium unit sizes are quite sufficient given that lots of the battles on this game are 40 vs 40 on siege maps.

[Guts]

Originally posted by bearfieldlee:

Originally posted by White Wolf:

That was my reasoning behind upgrading the GPU when I did.

How is your performance?

I play on large unit scale, and whenever there's more than two stacks involved need to turn the shadows off. 30 fps is pretty much a given once the lines meet and the whole mess gets to calculating. Any attempt at ultra unit scale is a big no-go.

There are some steps you can take in game and with mods that will dramaticaly increase performance.
Try a mod called "Performance maker for massive battles plus Warhammer shaders" and another one called "Blob shadows". The second one allows you to turn off ingame shadows and set unit markers to permanent as it transforms them into little shadowesque discs under each unit so that the units still look nicely grounded without the performance impact of actual shadows.

The game looks and performs amazingly for me with those 2 mods on. Also, and this is obviously just my opinion but I think that medium unit sizes are quite sufficient given that lots of the battles on this game are 40 vs 40 on siege maps.

Hey man, nice seeing you again! I used both of those mods when I saw you recommend them in another thread. Unfortunately there's just nothing to be done when enough units collide with each other. My processor currently can't keep up and nothing I do alleviates the issue. I have played on medium in the past, but I just can't sacrifice the model count of large.

I've never actually encountered the 40 v 40 siege you describe except for that tomb king city with the AI faction that just stands on it and builds armies. I usually avoid them because on large it goes from bad to worse with the frames and it's just a dizzying amount of units to take care of.

I hear you though and appreciate the advice. Blob shadows particularly is a great mod.

[MM]

I have a 2700x at home and a 7700k at work (yes I can play at work, moving along)

My 2700x with precision boost (running ~4.2) and AIO cooler gets notably worse performance at 4k with the same settings as my air cooled standard clocked 7700k.

2700x as soon as the fighting and blobbing begins it'll chug down to 30-40 fps, and even tanks down into the 20s if it's real bad (40 v 40 skelly armies for example). Turning the resolution down doesn't help at all for me. Seems to be more an issue of the CPU just gets bogged down when guys blob hard.

7700k almost never dips below 40. In extreme cases it'll hit the low 30s. I've never once seen it drop into the 20s, even with 40v40 skelly sieges on ultra.

I want to like my AMD better but it's just flat out objectively worse in this game, and not by a little. The extra cores and threads just aren't getting utilized.

Granted the 7700k is about 150 bucks more (or more), but its comparable core counts and clock speeds.

EIther way i'd get a ryzen 5 3600 instead of a 2700x. It's better in every way that matters for this game and practically the same price.

[Savok]

You have the same videocard at home and work?

[Rupert debear]

I have the 2700x it seems to bottleneck a 2080 in this game in large battles gpu usages dropping to 40% with tanking fps this game engine only uses 20% of the cpu horse power technically not the cpu fault though

[Guts]

@Smegmata resolution plays an incredibly important role in fact it's the largest performance factor far as I know. I have been suggested other ryzen cards for their superior single core performance but I do intend to play Cyberpunk 2077 on this PC and I reckon it ought to have good multi core support that benefits more from the 2700x.

Honestly coming from an i7 2600k if the game drops down to 20 in a 40v40 skelly slug out presumably on ultra unit size that's gravy because currently my game would just stop completely.

[MM]

Originally posted by Savok:

You have the same videocard at home and work?

resolution changing having no effect on the FPS eliminates the GPU as a limiting factor. The GPU in my 7700k system is a 1080ti and in my 2700x is a 2080ti for reference, though.

Originally posted by White Wolf:

@Smegmata resolution plays an incredibly important role in fact it's the largest performance factor far as I know. I have been suggested other ryzen cards for their superior single core performance but I do intend to play Cyberpunk 2077 on this PC and I reckon it ought to have good multi core support that benefits more from the 2700x.

Honestly coming from an i7 2600k if the game drops down to 20 in a 40v40 skelly slug out presumably on ultra unit size that's gravy because currently my game would just stop completely.

Normally that is a correct assumption, but resolution is not a factor here. If it were, then dropping resolution from 4k to 2k would make a larger than 3-4 average FPS impact on performance on my machines - which it did not. The FPS dips on my 2700x were only a handful less severe at a much lower resolution.

This isn't a graphical limitation in this case. The AMD processor is simply inferior at this particular task.

That being said i'm still planning on getting a zen 3 chip when it comes out.

[TheSwampyBogard]

I was rocking a Ryzen 7 2700X and a 970 a couple months ago (have since swapped to a 2070 super but still using the Ryzen) and had absolutely no performance issues whatsoever really, on high-ultra most settings. Once I got that Ryzen dude I felt like I had limitless power in TW, nothing seemed to make me lag. It also sliced my load times and turn times in half, processor definitely affects both of those, not just HDD/SSD.

I would thoroughly recommend the upgrade. I had something REALLY old before I got my Ryzen, but the difference in performance was absolutely clear as day and made me enjoy the game much more.