How the *** do you play as Norsca?

[Aurora]

Can only have 1 or 2 armies, meanwhile empire is bloated up with Gelt, Franz and Volkmar waiting for me and ganking me every time I go south.
Can't establish a foothold because Throt's skaven corruption prevents me from using Erengrad and I don't want to be at war with him too.

Vampires and Orks are coming from east/south, too, and the other Norscan dude is at war with me, and if I confed him, Dark Elves will probably come at me too.

Absolute horsedung.

[TocToc.SalleOfHope]

Norsca => Defeat leader and confed the faction.
This is the way.

[Aurora]

Done that to get Wulfrik. Other guy (Surtha Ek) has the western areas.
But if I confed him, dark elves will know me and I dont need even more armies coming at me.

[Anvos]

Yeah Norsca is kind of the end of development loser in Mortal Empires. All there really is to say is hopefully when they get to their rework they'll be more fun in Immortal Empires.

Really don't get why they couldn't have at least given Norsca/Chaos a slap patch for WH 2 before they ended WH 2 development to make Norscan/Chaos ruins work like a blood grounds where you have to destroy the Chaos Shrine and can upgrade it to provide better garrison troops, more corruption. and local replenishment.

[The Sand Witch]

Yeah even though I won with them for the achievement, it was not fun and was kind of tricky as well.
There is a way to not conf the west side (playing as Throgg) so you do not get the love from DE and can focus on going down sacking the empire whilst allowing your skaven nasty friends to expand over your progression.

Still it's tricky and if you get war declared from norscan factions on the west side, it's going bad for you.
Wulfrik is a nightmare to play as.

Will have to see how it goes with the map including all 3 games.

[Drache]

Originally posted by Aurora:

Can only have 1 or 2 armies, meanwhile empire is bloated up with Gelt, Franz and Volkmar waiting for me and ganking me every time I go south.
Can't establish a foothold because Throt's skaven corruption prevents me from using Erengrad and I don't want to be at war with him too.

Vampires and Orks are coming from east/south, too, and the other Norscan dude is at war with me, and if I confed him, Dark Elves will probably come at me too.

Absolute horsedung.

Norsca is a pure raider faction. You don't earn your money in your towns, towns are only there to recruit and build your armies. You must attack, attack, and attack. You'll see evil red negative income numbers when you load up on armies, but you'll earn enough if you continuously attack and sack, only capture a town if you need/want the special building there or need/want to get casualty replenishment amped up.

If your armies take a beating, pull them back and rebuild while another army fills the attack role. If the AI dog-piles an area with armies, pull back and hit them as they spread out, use ambush stance so the AI doesn't "instantly" know where you are. Raiding is viable against those with whom you are not at war (yet).

[Dark Angel]

pretend yuor a norseman from the deeps

[Chillum]

as throgg? the one and only time I won with norsca (if i even completed, but i remember taking altdorf) i used this mod or one like it.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1442928895

[Yellowdragon]

Don't play them. Norsca is the worst faction in the game.
Let's say if Tyrion is 8/10 I would give Norsca 4/10 the lowest score in the game.

But If you really want a challenge then try to wipe Bretonia at early stage, then Empires before they alliance, but It's very tough.

[Aurora]

I use Trolls for the Trollking. It was fun until the Empire started to get too powerful and I was at war with too many enemies. Too many armies to handle for Throgg solo, even with all the crazy trolls.
Was playing on Very Hard for achievement. Also using some mods that make player bias less and less confed and some other AI overhauls, still a pain.

[tiberiansun371alexw]

Put 15 Mammoths in each army? IIRC they're only tier IV

[Anvos]

Originally posted by Drache:

Originally posted by Aurora:

Can only have 1 or 2 armies, meanwhile empire is bloated up with Gelt, Franz and Volkmar waiting for me and ganking me every time I go south.
Can't establish a foothold because Throt's skaven corruption prevents me from using Erengrad and I don't want to be at war with him too.

Vampires and Orks are coming from east/south, too, and the other Norscan dude is at war with me, and if I confed him, Dark Elves will probably come at me too.

Absolute horsedung.

Norsca is a pure raider faction. You don't earn your money in your towns, towns are only there to recruit and build your armies. You must attack, attack, and attack. You'll see evil red negative income numbers when you load up on armies, but you'll earn enough if you continuously attack and sack, only capture a town if you need/want the special building there or need/want to get casualty replenishment amped up.

If your armies take a beating, pull them back and rebuild while another army fills the attack role. If the AI dog-piles an area with armies, pull back and hit them as they spread out, use ambush stance so the AI doesn't "instantly" know where you are. Raiding is viable against those with whom you are not at war (yet).

Problem being you can't actually stop the AI by raiding, raiding has diminishing returns after a first sacking, and on higher difficulties raiding does about nothing to stop a later game AI faction. Then since Norscans/Chaos lack a Blood Grounds mechanic, to lock down ruins, they have no way to stop faction reemergence who then get a crap ton of free settlements since AI doesn't pay for colonization and higher difficulty replenishment means their army is back up and running 1-2 turns later. This is further compounded by supply lines making a raiding economy unsustainable. Let alone large parts of the Old World are miles away from ports limiting Norscan ability to regroup.

[franz]

You kill Chaos and get ulimted power asap , Ez pz and befriend with all rats. The lvl 5 mammoth has like 10 times the AR as the lvl 4. I took out 3 HE LL doomstacks with 19 of them in AR , ez pz . And my lord was a freshly random scrublord.

[Sifer2]

Irony is I remember when Norsca was made late in Warhammer 1's development, and everyone said they were the best, and most fleshed out faction by far. Now they are rock bottom. Really surprised they never revamped them, and added Skeggi as a playable faction. Instead we got way too many lord packs for Lizard's/DE's.

[SpeaksTooFast]

They are playable they just get hit hard by game 2's difficulty modifiers. If you don't want deal with that then obviously mods are an option, another is to just turn down the campaign difficulty. Problem solved.

[Eldi]

It's tough, don't feel bad if you fail a few times or want to drop the difficulty a bit to learn the good tactics.

Raiding is income don't forget and sometimes sacking and moving on/returning is key.
Those were the hardest parts for me to learn.