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And there you go again, insulting Dwarfs while glorifying the Elves. Dwarfs only did nothing of note, because you ignore everything they do and did. Dismissing everything they've done. Insulting a fictional non existent race. For what Veresh? To pretend a make belief race of Elves are better in your mindseye?
Elves routed. Elves fled the mainland. Dwarfs won. GW said the Dwarfs won. After that war, both nations were at a "cold" war as it's called. Neither side wanting to fight the other side anymore.
And do not lie with "Helves could easily beat Dwarfs, but war with Chaos". Elves were not at direct all out war with Chaos. They have not been at direct war with Chaos since the Vortex Creation. The war of Vengeance was 3000 years later Veresh. Learn your lore.
And again you hurl insults at a fictional race. Why? Are you under the impression that your words are hurting me? Are you thinking I'm feeling insulted the same way you react when someone speaks the truth about Helves, that they're not the shining beacon you pretend them to be?
Nothing in this bit you said is true, it's word for word a lie. Every word is propaganda, lies to distort the truth
Apologies if the next bit hurts you, but you're a Elf weeb.
In finno-korean hyper war, right after 10000 year long ming dynasty ended?
Again personal attacks. I am absolutely dispassionate about all the races of the game, the fact that the Elves are the top 1 race, this is CA statistics, this is GW knowledge
And you're lying again, because the dwarfs tried to destroy the Wood Elves, Eonir and the rest of the colonists who eventually became rangers. None of these three nations of the Elves, they were able to destroy. As a result, the Forest Elves defeat the 2 strongest kingdoms of the Dwarfs with one of their principalities. Your words about the victory of the dwarfs is a very bad joke, it is not funny. Re-read the knowledge to adequately understand this knowledge and talk about it
Get this through your thick skull. GW themselves, the creators of this franchise, the creators of the lore, the ones who dictate what happend in lore have stated, in written lore that the Dwarfs won the war of vengeance.
No matter how many times you try to fanfiction your way out of it. The Dwarfs won. The Dwarfs destroyed every settlement, every stronghold of the Helves on the mainland, except for the 2 magical forests. Because the forest itself defends it. Not because of the Elves.
Claiming I'm making personal attacks, yet you yourself claim me repeating offical GW lore is a bad joke.
I'm done talking to a Slaaneshi cultist.
I never touched that campaign again... or HE.
These are just your personal attacks. I went through all the campaigns and read all the combat publications, so I have a broad outlook and argue solely on the basis of GW knowledge, without emotions and absolutely dispassionately.
The dwarfs destroyed the empty cities that the elves gave to the people, where it was profitable. 3 Nations Elf, Wood Elves, Eonir and colonists rangers raised people and brought them the basic concepts and knowledge of civilization. That was the plan of the elves. Dwarfs can't even beat the Wood Elves, while the Wood Elves with 1 army, 1 kingdom beat the 2 strongest dwarf kingdoms.
As a result, the Elves remained the rulers of the world, all people obey them. And the dwarfs go to the service of the empire, as a result, to the service of the elves. Here is such a victory for the dwarfs. Left without their fortresses, wealth and resources, in the constant siege of goblins and skaven, who eventually slaughtered them. Hiding from Chaos in their wormholes while the Elves decimated the Chaos invading armies and nearly won if the humans hadn't thwarted the ritual due to their weakness.
Let me quote the Dwarf 7th edition army book Veresh;
"The war of the beard, as the war of vengeance became known to the Elves, should had ensured Dwarfs dominion over the old world for ages to come.
The fates were not so kind, however, and before the everlasting realm could recover from the conflict, the Dwarfs were beset by natural disasters unparalleled since the the first great Chaos incursion."
Understand this is the offical army book made by GW.
The Dwarfs won, without question. Yes they took casulties. But the Elves couldn't defeat a single Karak. All the holds held against the Elves. The High Elves lost all holdings on the main land. They had no more cities. Merely outposts in the forests.
The reason Dwarfs right now are suffering and not the dominant race in the world, was because of Mazdamundi causing the great sundering. This caused many dwarf holds their defenses to be broken. Letting in countless Skaven and Greenskins.
That's right Veresh, the Dwarf empire, the everlasting realm, was stopped at it's zenith, not by Elves. But by a single Slann. Not even a first generation Slann. A second generation Slann. A single Slann did by accident what the might of the High Elf army could not.
Perhaps if Calendor II didn't blame the Dwarfs for the very obvious Druchii attacks, the war of Vengeance would had never happend. Yes Snorri was to aggressive against the Helves. Neither side is free of guilt for the war. But perhaps if Calendor II wasn't that arrogant and accepted that Malekith was behind it, the Helves wouldn't be crippled and would had stopped the insurrection of Malekith, making certain the Druchii would never truly become a factor.
Stop the sheer lunacy of trying to retcon offical lore from GW.
he really is the worst ambassador the elves ever had, im starting to suspect that he is actually a demon lover that tries to fuel hatred towards the elves.
Good idea but don't know they can do it or not.
>I had mods for more lords for High Elves and Wanted to play a cool Dragon Elf but then a guy on the forum kept saying that we are all waiting for Eldyra and that we all love High Elves (even though I clearly do I even totally had mods for more of them), and then I didn't want to play them anymore
Highly unbelievable.
>I want to mod them all out
You can't even mod OP out of your "what I see on Steam" list by blocking him.
Or if you have blocked him you still read it all.
So, I doubt this, too.
i am serious about looking into mods which remove the elves from the game, this is the result of OP posting the same BS for years on various different forums. he has been banned on other forums for a reason. him posting this bs has been going on for a long, long time.
but apparently you think false information should just be allowed to spread and people that get sick of it should just shut up, this is the perfect example of why so much false information is spreading uncontrolled on the internet.
He acts like we all want Eldyra and all that.
But that pertains to some videogame.
Now, if Steam or something adds "User must desire Eldyra to post here" in the rules, or if someone at some reallife job has it endangered cause he or she doesn't think Eldyra is the hottest ♥♥♥♥ ever, then I'd oppose that too, just like I oppose notions of "Is this game racist, sexist, political or whatever actor showplay consensus cracking word is included", etc.
But "Everyone loves Eldyra and HEs" I don't mind. And I even agree that WH3 would have been enriched by having them as a core race, simply because I consider them one of the most important races of Warhammer, simply because of the folklore nature of what elves are to westerners (or Germanic peoples of all the kinds)
(And there are probably metrics out there, that could give some actual weight to it too)
Kazad Kro
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Kazad_Kro
An ambitious mage from the Grey Lords called Ilendril had wrung the secret of binding a dragon to ones will from a captured Dark elf sorceress. He had bound a wild dragon of the Old World, a beast the dwarfs named Malok, to his will and directed it to lay waste to the dwarf city, hoping that this would prove the effectiveness of his enchantments.[2a] Malok and his master Ilendril devastated Kazad Kro, burning Skarnag in his own treasure hall and leaving the ruin abandoned.
Kazad Thrund
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Kazad_Thrund
Since the War of the Beard raged across the Old World, and the city was never mentioned
again afterwards, it can be assumed that Kazad Thrund has since been destroyed.
Karak Azgaraz
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Karak_Azgaraz
Raids on Dwarf settlements and merchants led by the Dark Elf Witch King Malekith had sown discord between Dwarfs and Elves. The emissaries of the Dwarf High King Gotrek Starbreaker were poorly treated (and the second dishonoured) by the haughty Phoenix King Caledor II. Originally named Kazad Azgaraz, the former trading town was undergoing fortification when elven forces sacked the Dwarf fortress, scattered its defenders and killed its king. The Elves repeated this twice more before
many cities of dwarfs were destroyed, your lies are too primitive and obvious.
Same thing, not a Karak.
This was a Karak undergoing construction, it was sacked, 3 times. Yet to this very day it exists. It's not destroyed.
You mean your inability to grasp basic Dwarf words is obvious. Let me quote what I said.
No Karak was defeated.
"The Dwarfs were quite unlike any foe the Elves had ever faced, refusing to give up even when doom or defeat was assured for them. The war became a stalemate, the mountain fortresses of the Dwarfs were unassailable and the Dawi laid siege to Tor Alessi thirteen times, but unable to penetrate the city's walls. Much of Athel Loren was destroyed as the war continued for another 450 years."
At the 14th siege the Dwarfs did break into Tor Alessi. They were defeated.
"The remaining Asur briefly considered the impossible task of besieging Karaz-a-Karak in order to reclaim the Crown"
Notice "Impossible"
I fully admit the Dwarfs took many casulties, that their victory was pyrrhic at best. The Dwarfs still won and would had actually recovered within a generation or 2 to 3. Dwarfs lost no grounds in the end, Elves lost their presence on the main continent.
Edit: because I forgot to finish my sentence. The Dwarfs reason they're so few right now and in danger, was the loss of life of the War of Vengeance, then Mazdamundi caused the great sundering. Without Mazdamundi his mistake, the Dwarfs would had hold out against Greenskin incursions. The underway would not had collapsed. Etc.
You are lying again. The elves destroyed many of the dwarven strongholds. The elves have retained a defining influence through their 3 nations - the Wood Elves, Eonir and the rangers of the colonists. The dwarves failed to destroy them, they tried, but their armies were destroyed.
Then you say that the Frogs ruined the life of the dwarfs. But at this time, the High Elves fought against the Dark Elves, the traitors of the Dwarfs were not their target. After defeating the Dark Elves, the High Elves had enough power to destroy the Dwarfs, but they spared them because of their kindness and mercy.