What is the best Historical Total War?

[Dark Sun Gwyndolin]

Title. I know this is a weird place to ask this, but this is currently the most populated TW forum on Steam. I like Shogun 2, but the faction design is rather generic. Never played a proper campaign of Rome 2, Napoleon, only the tutorials. Britannia was surprisingly fun and is in a setting I like, but the game is kinda barebones. Three Kingdoms is fantastic and by far my most played historical title, but it wasn't left in a great state after Fates Divided. I keep reinstalling Troy, but can't make myself stick with a campaign, despite enjoying the purely-infantry combat. Mods are fine. Anything earlier than Napoleon probably won't hold my interest, although I'd try Rome Remastered if people say it's good.

[-Singularity-]

引用自 Technomancer：

引用自 brownacs：

If you're willing to play Napoleon, are you willing to play Empire? Its battles are god awful but I did really, really enjoy its campaign. Battles wise, I'd probably say Shogun 2 has the best.

Napoleon is about my limit, and Empire is way too janky to enjoy. If I want gunpowder, I'd probably play FotS. And yes, Shogun 2 is extremely good; the only flaws are the onerous Realm Divide, and how boring the different factions are (only the Ikko-Ikki and the Otomo really stand out).

Yeah. Empire was a great attempt, but the bugs are so bad for me it makes it unplayable. Maybe we will get an Empire 2 someday that runs well.

[brownacs]

引用自 -Singularity-：

Yeah. Empire was a great attempt, but the bugs are so bad for me it makes it unplayable. Maybe we will get an Empire 2 someday that runs well.

If you skip the battles, the campaign is still really great I think.

[-Singularity-]

引用自 brownacs：

引用自 -Singularity-：

Yeah. Empire was a great attempt, but the bugs are so bad for me it makes it unplayable. Maybe we will get an Empire 2 someday that runs well.

If you skip the battles, the campaign is still really great I think.

It has a bug where late game russia can get stuck on its turn. Its a major downer when it happens as there is no way around it.

[brownacs]

引用自 -Singularity-：

It has a bug where late game russia can get stuck on its turn. Its a majo downer when it happens as there is no way around it.

Oh really? I only did the one play through with Russia, many, many years ago, and that was fine if I'm remembering correctly (it was many years ago). I mostly focused on the more naval nations so a lot of Spain and Great Britain.

[nemovadis]

If the Europa Barbarorum mod is still around, Rome 1 with it was probably one of the most interesting games if you like warfare and strategy in Ancient times.

[-Singularity-]

引用自 brownacs：

引用自 -Singularity-：

It has a bug where late game russia can get stuck on its turn. Its a majo downer when it happens as there is no way around it.

Oh really? I only did the one play through with Russia, many, many years ago, and that was fine if I'm remembering correctly (it was many years ago). I mostly focused on the more naval nations so a lot of Spain and Great Britain.

It was Russia AI that got stuck. So you either had to play as them, or start near them and wipe them out before they got big and caused the endless turn bug. Doesn't happen every time, but after the 3rd or 4th broken campaign I was out.

[Fear2288]

引用自 Technomancer：

引用自 Fear2288：

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Medievel 2 is a bit too old for me, but I enjoyed the tutorial of Rome 2 and there are 2 good mods (Divide et Imperia and Radious) to bring it up to modern standards. What about Attila, would you say it's better or worse than Rome 2?

As for Three Kingdoms, I think the truth has come out as to why it was cut short; several DLC's in a row didn't sell enough to break even; for the record, I bought all of them. This meant that the players clamouring for more DLC were a vocal minority and there weren't actually enough verifiable purchasers. I agree with their decision to work on 3K2 instead, and combine them like Mortal Empires, although I don't like how buggy a state 3K was left in.

I tried to like Attila but it just didn’t do it for me.

I’m not a fan of the “here’s a sandbox but at turn X we made it so one faction comes along and wrecks everyone” set up. Big reason why I didn’t like the campaign of W1.

I get that it’s historical but that’s just not fun to me.

I also didn’t like how the game is just punishing by default. Every so often I try and go back to it because I hype myself up that playing a campaign as a resurgent WRE that defeats the barbarians and reclaims it’s glory could be awesome…but then I usually rage quit when by turn 10 I’ve lost 5 settlements to rebels, have minor factions tearing up my borderlands, plagues are running rampant, my economy is in the garbage, and my military effectiveness is equivalent to throwing a pillow at a mass of 1 million screaming berserkers.

[brownacs]

引用自 -Singularity-：

It was Russia AI that got stuck. So you either had to play as them, or start near them and wipe them out before they got big and caused the endless turn bug. Doesn't happen every time, but after the 3rd or 4th broken campaign I was out.

Ah fair enough. I have 220 hours with Empire and I can't recall ever seeing that bug but I'll take your word for it. I'm assuming it's a fairly recent bug? Haven't played it in a good few years.