Total War: WARHAMMER II

Total War: WARHAMMER II

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Desmond Nov 19, 2017 @ 1:51pm
Is grimgor the biggest ork that ever existed?
And how big can a ork get?
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Krash Nov 19, 2017 @ 2:10pm 
not sure if hes the biggest ever

orcs size is kinda like his ego the more he wins the bigger he gets. so aslong as he wins battles or can beat something of equal or bigger size he will grow bigger after every fight

an example would be he beats a troll he gets bigger but if he kills 100 goblins he will not because he never deemed the goblins a challenge

also some people lose their ♥♥♥♥ if you use ork instead of orc for fantasy just trying to save you a headache
Last edited by Krash; Nov 19, 2017 @ 2:10pm
Desmond Nov 19, 2017 @ 2:12pm 
Originally posted by EreWeGo:
not sure if hes the biggest ever

orcs size is kinda like his ego the more he wins the bigger he gets. so aslong as he wins battles or can beat something of equal or bigger size he will grow bigger after every fight

an example would be he beats a troll he gets bigger but if he kills 100 goblins he will not because he never deemed the goblins a challenge

also some people lose their ♥♥♥♥ if you use ork instead of orc for fantasy just trying to save you a headache


Thats pretty much why I ask I would like to see the biggest one ever existed. Like could they become giant sized? whale sized? mountain sized?

And people that are so easly provoked kind of deserve and needs it
Last edited by Desmond; Nov 19, 2017 @ 2:13pm
Krash Nov 19, 2017 @ 2:14pm 
Originally posted by Ragsash:
Originally posted by EreWeGo:
not sure if hes the biggest ever

orcs size is kinda like his ego the more he wins the bigger he gets. so aslong as he wins battles or can beat something of equal or bigger size he will grow bigger after every fight

an example would be he beats a troll he gets bigger but if he kills 100 goblins he will not because he never deemed the goblins a challenge

also some people lose their ♥♥♥♥ if you use ork instead of orc for fantasy just trying to save you a headache


Thats pretty much why I ask I would like to see the biggest one ever existed.

And people that are so easly provoked kind of deserve and needs it
im doing some digging to find out youve made me curious about who is the biggest

HOLD PLEASE *click*
Last edited by Krash; Nov 19, 2017 @ 2:14pm
Desmond Nov 19, 2017 @ 2:19pm 
Originally posted by EreWeGo:
im doing some digging to find out youve made me curious about who is the biggest

HOLD PLEASE *click*


Cause I would guess in fantasy there would be more of a limit Cause after ogres there is not much bigger untill giants and ogre dragons and....dragons..... and after that?
but in 40k I guess there are bigger things to challenge so there are more things go from tiny goblin to titans feels like they got more of "natural" way to go

I read somewhere there was a ork that almost killed the god emperor so I guess that one has to been quite massive.
Krash Nov 19, 2017 @ 2:28pm 
https://steamcommunity.com/app/364360/discussions/0/357286663670303669/?ctp=885

pop over to that thread and ask it looks to me like grimgor is the biggest but there are people in that thread have access to all the lore books and info i dont

and the one that nearly killed the emperor was a prime ork which is basically a primarch version of an ork
heres the link of the 40k lore thread
http://steamcommunity.com/app/364360/discussions/0/333656722976215057/
also these threads are so massive its better to ask even if its been answered it can take days to find any info your looking for
Last edited by Krash; Nov 19, 2017 @ 2:30pm
Queco Jones21 Nov 19, 2017 @ 2:59pm 
You shouldnt mix 40k and fantasy, they are essentially 2 different universes.

That said, grimgor is more or less the biggest, baddest, black orc there ever was/is, at least until the end times.
burningmime Nov 19, 2017 @ 3:11pm 
Originally posted by Queco Jones21:
You shouldnt mix 40k and fantasy, they are essentially 2 different universes.

I get the impression that they were originally tied together (same chaos gods, mention of "warp" in both of them, etc), and GW started moving them in different directions for a while. Then they realized space marines sold more than dwarfs, so they gave space marines swords and shields and called that age of sigmar.
Kaia Nov 19, 2017 @ 3:11pm 
Its still never been made clear to me why they replaced Morglum (the go-to black orc badass before 6th edition) with Grimgor (who literally just filled exactly the same role from 6th onward.)

Even a 'sell more models' solution doesn't sum it up cause y'know..they had to make a new one anyway. Coulda just updated Morglum's rather tired old cast.
burningmime Nov 19, 2017 @ 3:15pm 
Originally posted by Kaia:
Its still never been made clear to me why they replaced Morglum (the go-to black orc badass before 6th edition) with Grimgor (who literally just filled exactly the same role from 6th onward.)

Even a 'sell more models' solution doesn't sum it up cause y'know..they had to make a new one anyway. Coulda just updated Morglum's rather tired old cast.

Morglum is the most emo orc name I've heard.
Originally posted by EreWeGo:
also some people lose their ♥♥♥♥ if you use ork instead of orc for fantasy just trying to save you a headache
Dude if your on a warhammer forum then you probably know the difference between ork and orcs since orks are integrel to the warhammer series, of not your either not right in the head or just an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lookin to troll, so don't worry about saying ork in warhammer forums and content.

Also OP keep in mind that Grimgor is a black ork, a specific breed of ork made by chaos dwarves as the idle slaves, smarter, bigger, more tempered than regular greenskin trash that of course rebel'd and ran lose across the world.
Kaia Nov 19, 2017 @ 3:21pm 
That probably explains it actually 6th edition was about when GW as a whole lost sight of the whole 'subtlty' thing and needed to inject keywords into all their branding.

Like how the entire Spacewolf army had the word 'wolf' attached to everything overnight going from a vaguely viking chapter with cool beards to 'werewolves' for the furry crowd.

Obviously ramming 'Grim' and 'Gore' together and dropping the E appealed to the new 'no such thing as too blatent and one-note' GW.
Desmond Nov 19, 2017 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by Great grey wolf Sif:
Originally posted by EreWeGo:
also some people lose their ♥♥♥♥ if you use ork instead of orc for fantasy just trying to save you a headache
Dude if your on a warhammer forum then you probably know the difference between ork and orcs since orks are integrel to the warhammer series, of not your either not right in the head or just an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lookin to troll, so don't worry about saying ork in warhammer forums and content.

Also OP keep in mind that Grimgor is a black ork, a specific breed of ork made by chaos dwarves as the idle slaves, smarter, bigger, more tempered than regular greenskin trash that of course rebel'd and ran lose across the world.


Sure I know the diffrence but as said people getting angry over something as small as that they need to chill and deserve it.

Does that change how they grow?
Bob Nov 19, 2017 @ 3:30pm 
So wait orks get bigger the more battles they win? so, they are like super saiyans?
Originally posted by Ragsash:
Originally posted by Great grey wolf Sif:
Dude if your on a warhammer forum then you probably know the difference between ork and orcs since orks are integrel to the warhammer series, of not your either not right in the head or just an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lookin to troll, so don't worry about saying ork in warhammer forums and content.

Also OP keep in mind that Grimgor is a black ork, a specific breed of ork made by chaos dwarves as the idle slaves, smarter, bigger, more tempered than regular greenskin trash that of course rebel'd and ran lose across the world.


Sure I know the diffrence but as said people getting angry over something as small as that they need to chill and deserve it.

Does that change how they grow?
Not sure, all i know is they are more likly to succede than a regular ork warboss, though other than grimgor there are none.
Originally posted by DeiTy93:
So wait orks get bigger the more battles they win? so, they are like super saiyans?
Well kinda, but you gotta remember they don't usually win enough to get to giant size, their tendencise usually get them killed, I think it has been mentioned that grimgor has actually grown to be larger than trolls.
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