Armies getting stuck is still a problem. Why?

[𓆩♡𓆪]

You know I love Total war but what I don't like is when my armies suddenly get stuck and prevent me from moving them and this has been an issue that apparently was "Being looked into" back in 2017 I wonder if anybody over there listens sometimes. I am playing on Hard with a friend in Co-op and I come onto an island with both of my lords, they can't move anymore and there's an enemy army right in front of them. So I figured "Okay next turn I will attack so I can freely move past them.". I'm waiting a bit for my friend to get into position for this attack a couple turns later and I can't move still. The two lords are just completely stuck I can't do a damn thing about it and we are in co-op so now I am left with the option of "How am I gonna get these idiots unstuck." and so far the only solution is reload (Which the autosave is now gone at this point since I didn't think this was gonna be like this) and I gotta disband one of my best armies since it'll be too risky at this point to bring over a singular lord across the map to exchange these units and disband one of my highest leveled lords. Either way I lose so I go with the loss and brush it off as a one time thing until 30 turns later or so when my friend suddenly goes "Same thing just happened." and I look over and there it was again. Luckily we had prepared for this and were able to go back with a save but it still begs the question. Who over at the QA department that was supposed to look into this decided this wasn't an issue? Why can't a simple check or something be put into place where if two units are LITERALLY inside of each other or can't move in any direction and there's no enemies around that could prevent them from moving then they just get pushed apart or a unit gets pushed back to sea I would even take a solution of just pushing them ALL the way back to my Capital or something. Cause this issue only happens when coming out of the ships. I've even seen this apparently happen in even other titles of Total war back in 2013 why is this still an issue?

[Teh_Diplomat]

Holy lack of paragraphs Batman!

[Don't kill me]

Yea, you definitely need to use paragraphs more...

But, with that said, I experienced this pain a few days ago with my Beastmen campaign. My breyherds would jump quite literally inside of my Lords, so that the next turn I was completely unable to move. I would say that happens 4-5 times per campaign with my Beastmen.

The only mod I use is the one that allows encampment at 0% movement cost.

[Björn]

so people are finaly talking about old bugs that are never fixed... Been coming for a while and hopefully they will actually work on solutions for game 3 of this series...

But i doubt it since CA has never fixed real problems. They rather ignore them till the customer forgets about them...

[tomasstigjensen]

I have played this game for many years and it have never happend to me, where i could not explain why.. For instance being in a stance that disabled movement, or inside the red circle of a enemy city or lord, but then i can always attack..

Originally posted by Don't kill me:

Yea, you definitely need to use paragraphs more... :cactuar:

But, with that said, I experienced this pain a few days ago with my Beastmen campaign. My breyherds would jump quite literally inside of my Lords, so that the next turn I was completely unable to move. I would say that happens 4-5 times per campaign with my Beastmen.

The only mod I use is the one that allows encampment at 0% movement cost.

You litterly have a mod that change the rules for movements, and you wonder why this happends to you.?

[𓆩♡𓆪]

For people that may continue to come and read about this. I am going to provide why this is annoying and frustrating even if it may seem so little.

-I already deal with the game crashing whenever I destroy more than one part of a wall when sieging the lizardmen. I don't know why this happens to me but it just does. With that I can always come back and try again it doesn't take more than 30-40 seconds for me to load back in and try again. This bug doesn't happen when fighting any other race its just the lizardmen. Plus I am not being punished by losing almost an entire army or high level lord.

-Even in battle mode we can see that units will always try their best to never clip. They will wait and allow themselves to find an opportunity to walk through without clipping before even daring to move. I know these next examples aren't the same as Total war but they are still Strategy games and The devs can take note. Company of Heroes 2, vehicles and other units will always try to avoid cilpping and if they do, they will back up, step aside, but never pass through them. In the end though units will always attempt to unstick each other. Axis and Allies from 2005 also did the same thing but in this case if there was no way for a unit to move because they are stuck in another unit. One unit will always be allowed to move to break the problem.

-We spend a total of how much for the full Total War experience? If I am spending almost 200+ Dollars I would expect bugs that harm the player to be squashed. Even if the solution is so simple or if they can't replicate the bug at least show some effort in trying to get rid of it. But if the problem has existed since back in 2013 and you have been provided with saves and examples of it in action. Why ignore it still knowing more players are going to get hit with this.

[Elitewrecker PT]

Just to make sure. You couldn't use any of the armies to attack the enemy in front?
Screenshots would be a lot more useful.

[𓆩♡𓆪]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Just to make sure. You couldn't use any of the armies to attack the enemy in front?
Screenshots would be a lot more useful.

I couldn't do anything. I figured at the time because there was an enemy hero in front of me that I would need to wound him to get out of my way. Turned out this wasn't the case but I believe I still have the save so I am going to go back and snap a screenshot of it or replicate it. It just requires to lords coming out of sea at the same time or close to the same time from what I gathered.

[𓆩♡𓆪]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Just to make sure. You couldn't use any of the armies to attack the enemy in front?
Screenshots would be a lot more useful.

https://gyazo.com/7a368dee2515bf69f8cd55493a1fb392