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tomasstigjensen Jan 24, 2021 @ 8:43am
New update info.?
Hi, i started a new VC campaign after the new patch the other day and i seen some kinda big changes,
1. Like the cheesing a hero action, you can no longer change the outcome.. well have not found out yet if there is another way.
2. Radically changed the Vasal relation bonus, so it have become MUCH harder to confed..
3. Fixed a item drop, Warriors bane i think it is called.. Used not to appear when you got the drop, now it does... thats a nice one.. :-)

Anyway is there a list of the patch changes from the other day, cans seem to find it...
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Elitewrecker PT Jan 24, 2021 @ 9:00am 
The other day being a month ago?
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tomasstigjensen Jan 24, 2021 @ 9:17am 
No Game is now version 1:10.0
Was like 1:09.0 like a week ago...
Had a campaign going after The Twisted & Twilight Update 1 month ago..
But Confed was still like +100 relation points... now after the new patch the other day it is +70..
Also used to be able to alter a Hero's wound attemt.. Before if he failed, you could do a battle and he got re rolled and chance to succes was possible, or do another hero action with another hero and then new roll was made...
Now it seems like the chance is rolled and cant be changed, unless i have been VERY VERY unlucky with a +70% chance for success..
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Elitewrecker PT Jan 24, 2021 @ 9:19am 
No, twisted & twilight was 1.10, then there was a beta patch a couple weeks later for 1.10.1. 1.10.1 is the current live version since January 7.
Last edited by Elitewrecker PT; Jan 24, 2021 @ 9:45am
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Go0lden_Archer Jan 24, 2021 @ 9:43am 
Hi. were writing you from the future, in January 2021 covid is still a thing
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tomasstigjensen Jan 24, 2021 @ 10:35am 
Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:
No, twisted & twilight was 1.10, then there was a beta patch a couple weeks later for 1.10.1. 1.10.1 is the current live version since January 7.

Ahh yeah my mistake.. when i start the game the loading steam screen come up.. there is say 1.10.0 down in left corner.. Friday i stated the game up and it had to update... so i thought it updated from 1.09.0

But yes now it say 1.10.1 in the top right corner after the game are running...

It is the 1.10.1 i would like to read about because it is there is saw the changes to vasal relation and hero actions, compared to 1.10.0.
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Kaaz Jan 24, 2021 @ 10:41am 
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/the-asrai-resurgent-update/
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tomasstigjensen Jan 24, 2021 @ 10:52am 
Originally posted by Kaaz:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/the-asrai-resurgent-update/

TY... But still there is nothing about the new changes i explained above...
Dont they inform of all the changes.?
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Kaaz Jan 24, 2021 @ 10:57am 
1 - chance changes when you do an action, its seed based so just straight retrying wont give different results - it has always been like this

2 - its been hard to confed for a long while

3 - no idea on that one
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Elitewrecker PT Jan 24, 2021 @ 11:00am 
There is some stuff that isn't mentioned.
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tomasstigjensen Jan 24, 2021 @ 11:18am 
Originally posted by Kaaz:
1 - chance changes when you do an action, its seed based so just straight retrying wont give different results - it has always been like this

2 - its been hard to confed for a long while

3 - no idea on that one

1. Normaly if i got a critical failure i could reload, do a battle re try and get diffrent result..
Yesterday i had a critical failure on a +70% chance, i did like 4 diffrent battles and re tried inbetween, and some other hero actions for good meassure... Continued to give me critical failure... Never been like that before..

2. Vampire count have always had it easy to confed... you subjugate them, you wait for relation to get high(got like +120 from vasal), get high strength, wait for them to lose a battle, be at way with servel enemies, and then cancel vasal and confed them same turn, and they pay you for it.... Done it after twilight DLC.. play as Issabella, confed Mannfred, Kehmler and red duke easily.. Now vasal only give +70 relation meaning you have to actively work to get it above 100, since great power reduce alot..

3. After twilight DLC, the item Warrior Bane, that give AoE melee attack debuff, i had in above mentioned campaign had it dropped 3 times without it actually being anywhere, neither in the pool or on a body.. checked it MANY MANY times to confirm it.. Now in this new campaign it dropped for the first time and it was there..
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Wh♂♂par Jan 24, 2021 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by tomasstigjensen:
1. Normaly if i got a critical failure i could reload, do a battle re try and get diffrent result..
Yesterday i had a critical failure on a +70% chance, i did like 4 diffrent battles and re tried inbetween, and some other hero actions for good meassure... Continued to give me critical failure... Never been like that before..
That, so far, means nothing. You can be unlucky in 4 seeds.
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tomasstigjensen Jan 24, 2021 @ 12:07pm 
Originally posted by 76561198002580743:
Originally posted by tomasstigjensen:
1. Normaly if i got a critical failure i could reload, do a battle re try and get diffrent result..
Yesterday i had a critical failure on a +70% chance, i did like 4 diffrent battles and re tried inbetween, and some other hero actions for good meassure... Continued to give me critical failure... Never been like that before..
That, so far, means nothing. You can be unlucky in 4 seeds.

Critical failure is is like maybe 3% chance when you have +70% chance for success..
It is more then just unlucky to try 5 times and all get below 3% each time..
That is like winning the lotto numbers..
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Elitewrecker PT Jan 24, 2021 @ 12:19pm 
Assuming it's a 3% chance, failing 5 times in a row would be a 1/50million chance. Not jackpot odds, but still pretty rare.
But, it is possible they changed the seed mechanic for some reason. But considering save scumming isn't really something meant to be done, it's likely not significant enough to mention.
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tomasstigjensen Jan 24, 2021 @ 12:35pm 
Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:
Assuming it's a 3% chance, failing 5 times in a row would be a 1/50million chance. Not jackpot odds, but still pretty rare.
But, it is possible they changed the seed mechanic for some reason. But considering save scumming isn't really something meant to be done, it's likely not significant enough to mention.

Well for VC's that get bloodkisses from wounding it is kinda significant that you increase the time to get them by multiple times..
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Darth Wadewilson Jan 24, 2021 @ 1:36pm 
Originally posted by tomasstigjensen:
1. Normaly if i got a critical failure i could reload, do a battle re try and get diffrent result..
Yesterday i had a critical failure on a +70% chance, i did like 4 diffrent battles and re tried inbetween, and some other hero actions for good meassure... Continued to give me critical failure... Never been like that before..

It's RNG. You just got unlucky that many times. Or it got bugged and froze the outcome. Did you try it in a different turn. May be that might help.
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