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NoOne[PH] Feb 25, 2021 @ 12:27am
Vampire Counts: which heroes to accompany for each Vampire Lord type in campaign?
Hello people. I'd like to get your thoughts on which hero types to accompany each type of Vampire Lord (i.e. VC Bloodlines and the other Vampire Lords). Also, and what army compositions usually work best with the type of Vampire Lord in campaign. Thank you very much for taking the time to read this. Cheers!

P.S.: Currently playing on ME VC campaign on Vlad and using SFO mod. :)
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tomasstigjensen Feb 25, 2021 @ 3:14am 
Well it kinda depend on how you play the faction..
If you go for Skeletone spearman armies and hero armies only, that are by far the most effective way to play VC, then here are some tips.
Banshee is good for all, for the movement bonus..
Necromancers are good for skeleton armies, for Wind of Death and AoE regen,
Necromancers are also good to get bloodkisses by wounding other heroes, you get plenty of them.
Wight Kings are good for hero only armies. The training bonus matters very little..
Vampires(mostly shadow) are good for skelli armies for replenishment and votex spells.
Vampires are also very good for hero only armies..

All lords that are strong in melee. meaning high armor, melee defence are good for heroes only armies..
Rest are for skellie armies.
NoOne[PH] Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:29am 
Originally posted by tomasstigjensen:
Well it kinda depend on how you play the faction..
If you go for Skeletone spearman armies and hero armies only, that are by far the most effective way to play VC, then here are some tips.
Banshee is good for all, for the movement bonus..
Necromancers are good for skeleton armies, for Wind of Death and AoE regen,
Necromancers are also good to get bloodkisses by wounding other heroes, you get plenty of them.
Wight Kings are good for hero only armies. The training bonus matters very little..
Vampires(mostly shadow) are good for skelli armies for replenishment and votex spells.
Vampires are also very good for hero only armies..

All lords that are strong in melee. meaning high armor, melee defence are good for heroes only armies..
Rest are for skellie armies.

Thanks! Sorry if I don't understand entirely, but what are heroes only armies... and what are skelli armies? :)
Mr Robert House Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:38am 
The “meta” way to play vampires is to spam skeleton spearman, as they can be made free. Then you just have a lord, necromancer and vampire to spam spells and heal the skeletons. You can have like 20 armies very early as they’re very cheap.
NoOne[PH] Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:57am 
I see. Coz I'm using SFO mod in campaign atm, what units do i use mid-game to late-game?
NoOne[PH] Feb 25, 2021 @ 4:59am 
And, as for bloodline lords, is it a matter of preference as to which ones you want to recruit? I hear blood dragon bloodlines are a favorite.
tomasstigjensen Feb 25, 2021 @ 5:04am 
Hero only armies are a army with lord and heroe, no normal units..

Like Issabella and 6 vampire heroes are a doomstack that last the rest of the campaign... dont need other units in the army..

Never played SFO. but to my understanding they limit the number of same units in a army right.?

If so, then one of each hero in a army is good.. they each have a function that benifit the army greatly.. Vampire Count have cheap heroes.. that are VERY VERY strong..
fmalfeas Feb 25, 2021 @ 5:40am 
SFO doesn't allow the free skeleton stuff.

But from what I've sussed out in tests, stuff your necromancers into the drakenhof region to boost income, have your wights and banshees running around stabbing heroes, and give all your vampires to izzy.
tomasstigjensen Feb 25, 2021 @ 5:54am 
Originally posted by NoOnePH:
And, as for bloodline lords, is it a matter of preference as to which ones you want to recruit? I hear blood dragon bloodlines are a favorite.

Focus on the faction bonus they give..
NoOne[PH] Feb 25, 2021 @ 6:11am 
I see... so "meta" way of playing isn't feasible in SFO :)
fmalfeas Feb 25, 2021 @ 6:18am 
Originally posted by NoOnePH:
I see... so "meta" way of playing isn't feasible in SFO :)

Yep. However, the various actual troops have surprisingly low upkeep for what they do. But HUGE recruit costs.

Easy to keep your forces animated, hard to animate them in the first place. And things like Varghulfs and Vargheists are REALLY powerful.
tomasstigjensen Feb 25, 2021 @ 6:23am 
Dont have exprience with SFO.. But i know the units in VC very well..

Wight kings should not be no campaign map, they are very strong melee units..

Necromancers are a the hero you get most of, and highest lvl off.. also thir skills are almost all maxed out when they get to 40lvl.. They are the heroes you should wound(bloodkiss) with.

Banshee's movement are also for the armies..

Vampires are also for armies...

about bloodlines.. Go for the faction bonusses that helps you the most...
Yes a blood dragon are nice, but only because they get access to WoD early.. thats not really needed as you get it by alot of other lords/heroes..
madlarkin8 Feb 25, 2021 @ 9:35am 
THere should be a button you press when you post in steam forums with a checkmark next to it that just adds at the top of your post:

"I Am playing with mods turned on"
Mr Robert House Feb 25, 2021 @ 9:39am 
Originally posted by madlarkin8:
THere should be a button you press when you post in steam forums with a checkmark next to it that just adds at the top of your post:

"I Am playing with mods turned on"
“how does this feature work?”
*gives answer*
“yes but i changed how it works, and why does my game keep crashing?”
JODEGAFUN Feb 25, 2021 @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by NoOnePH:
Originally posted by tomasstigjensen:
Well it kinda depend on how you play the faction..
If you go for Skeletone spearman armies and hero armies only, that are by far the most effective way to play VC, then here are some tips.
Banshee is good for all, for the movement bonus..
Necromancers are good for skeleton armies, for Wind of Death and AoE regen,
Necromancers are also good to get bloodkisses by wounding other heroes, you get plenty of them.
Wight Kings are good for hero only armies. The training bonus matters very little..
Vampires(mostly shadow) are good for skelli armies for replenishment and votex spells.
Vampires are also very good for hero only armies..

All lords that are strong in melee. meaning high armor, melee defence are good for heroes only armies..
Rest are for skellie armies.

Thanks! Sorry if I don't understand entirely, but what are heroes only armies... and what are skelli armies? :)
A stack with Isabella+ 1 Varghulf (for siege attacker)+ 17 Vampire heroes and one banshee for example.
Vurt Feb 26, 2021 @ 8:25am 
2 Necrommancer, 17 Skeletons, Wind of Death everything. Research free skeleton upgrade, spam armies
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