Cathay or Kislev

[blood_guts]

I was curious what people are more hyped for. I'm kinda lukewarm about both. Bear cavalry and fantasy winged hussars sound cool. Maybe ninjas for Cathay? I just feel like if I'm playing good guys I'd have more fun being bretonia or empire. Arthurian legend and german history + steampunk tanks is just more compelling narrative wise to me. Is there some part I'm missing about those two that I should be more hyped for?

[lPaladinl]

Neither really. If I wanted more Humans with Guns that come in different shapes, I'd play a Historical Total War game.

I'm happy for more Chaos and hope they do them justice with a good roster of Chaos variants, I'm not sure how well they will pull it off since there's not actually that much difference in terms of units as there is having the same units in different gear with different stat sheets.

I'm not a fanboy for Chaos Dwarves or Ogres either, but I'll take them over copy-paste Empire units.

[Rack]

Cathay won't have Ninjas. They are China not Japan

[Falcon]

kislev is about the only thing i'm looking forward to. bear cav could be fun

[shadowlurker]

Neither, but I'll have fun destroying them as Chaos.

[NixAhmose]

I'm excited for them both almost equally since I think they both have great potential, but right now I'm leaning towards Kislev since we haven't seen anything concrete on Cathay yet.

[NixAhmose]

Originally posted by lPaladinl:

Neither really. If I wanted more Humans with Guns that come in different shapes, I'd play a Historical Total War game.

I'm happy for more Chaos and hope they do them justice with a good roster of Chaos variants, I'm not sure how well they will pull it off since there's not actually that much difference in terms of units as there is having the same units in different gear with different stat sheets.

I'm not a fanboy for Chaos Dwarves or Ogres either, but I'll take them over copy-paste Empire units.

Is Kislev really that similar to Empire? From what I've seen they're much more focused on heavy cavalry and infantry than they are guns and artillery like Empire, plus all the ice-themed units CA seems to be adding to Kislev's roster.
As for Cathay, they really don't sound similar to Empire other than their big territory wise and have access to guns. From what lore that is there it seems like a good portion of their roster is going to be monstrous infantry and construct infantry.

[lPaladinl]

Originally posted by Diedkid:

Is Kislev really that similar to Empire? From what I've seen they're much more focused on heavy cavalry and infantry than they are guns and artillery like Empire, plus all the ice-themed units CA seems to be adding to Kislev's roster.
As for Cathay, they really don't sound similar to Empire other than their big territory wise and have access to guns. From what lore that is there it seems like a good portion of their roster is going to be monstrous infantry and construct infantry.

I mean, ignoring that I hate cavalry, Empire already has some heavy monster cavalry in the form of Hippogryphs. I don't see how bears will be any different.

Maybe Cathay will get interesting with some monster or construct units, but as far as I am aware the bulk of their army is just alternatives to Empire firepower with heavy artillery and rockets.

[Go0lden_Archer]

Kislev. But in curious of what they so with Cathay.
Most excited to try out different chaos factions though, always was most hyped about that then anything else

[blood_guts]

Originally posted by lPaladinl:

Originally posted by Diedkid:

Is Kislev really that similar to Empire? From what I've seen they're much more focused on heavy cavalry and infantry than they are guns and artillery like Empire, plus all the ice-themed units CA seems to be adding to Kislev's roster.
As for Cathay, they really don't sound similar to Empire other than their big territory wise and have access to guns. From what lore that is there it seems like a good portion of their roster is going to be monstrous infantry and construct infantry.

I mean, ignoring that I hate cavalry, Empire already has some heavy monster cavalry in the form of Hippogryphs. I don't see how bears will be any different.

Maybe Cathay will get interesting with some monster or construct units, but as far as I am aware the bulk of their army is just alternatives to Empire firepower with heavy artillery and rockets.

I didn't think of constructs. You ever play Age of mythology? the automatons could be something interesting if done right. the terracota soldiers could be a thing you pull back and have them repair behind your lines or something, kind of like you'd do with vargulfs for vampires.

[blood_guts]

it's incredible how many people will comment some variant of "I hate humans. Why no sentient manatee beastmen?" or "all human factions are the empire, because mommy said paste is nutritious."

[💎🔥 ⓣⒶＬĮgŞ𝓛ﻮ]

Originally posted by Rack:

Cathay won't have Ninjas. They are China not Japan

Chinese have assassins which is the same as ninjas in that regards
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[Siokawsi]

Originally posted by NCP blood_guts:

I was curious what people are more hyped for. I'm kinda lukewarm about both. Bear cavalry and fantasy winged hussars sound cool. Maybe ninjas for Cathay? I just feel like if I'm playing good guys I'd have more fun being bretonia or empire. Arthurian legend and german history + steampunk tanks is just more compelling narrative wise to me. Is there some part I'm missing about those two that I should be more hyped for?

Understandable.

I am hyped for both; I love the fact that there will be multiple human factions.
If I had to pick one I would say slightly more on Cathay because of the freedom CA is getting in making new Lords & Units on top of there being a connection to the Lore of a Great Wall like the Great Wall of China which is pretty awesome in fighting off the daemons; e.g. the film "The Great Wall." So if I was involved in the creation of new units for Cathay there would be gun powder involved. ;)

I still think Kislev is a another cool flavor of a human faction. It's like a world of free people that love freedom from different cultures all banding together to fight for a common cause against a common evil (e.g.- like fighting against the Luciferion Cabal in the real world- go ahead Stm Spt- I did not mention the Ancient of Days or His Host of Angels but go ahead ban me for this line too, LOL.)

Not sure if we will get these other factions but I would also love to see Dogs of War on top of Araby- a cool faction based on the mythology of a Sahara Desert Environment (opposite of Tomb Kings with a different flavor of course.)

Also to note the Mass Psychology of being forced to hate others by insulting & calling everyone racist does not affect me one bit. A lot of people wanted Araby more than Cathay and it had nothing to do with being racist it was just a Lore Preference in the World of Warhammer. It's amazing how a generation can be trained & condition to react this way off of everything now a days including a fictional universe.

[Cat®]

Kislev's hussars only have a single wing, making them weak baby hussars not worthy of respect. Bears are fun, but until I see the finished product I don't know what to think. Cathay exists only to be raided, and thus their landmarks and trade resources are the most interesting part about their faction.

Gotta say, I really don't care much for either. Humans are been-there-done-that no matter how many flavours you add in. They gotta do something crazy for my interest to be piqued.

[MessiahofMelons]

Between those 2, kislev. But lets be real here.

Demons, demons, demons, demons, demons, demons. Cant wait run rampant across the world with tzeentch or a bloodthirster

[fmalfeas]

Tzeentch.