Sylvania are always wiped?

[Saxif]

It seems to me that Sylvania, when AI, are always wiped out in my games. It is typically the Empire and/or the Dwarves that become a super power and The Cult of Pleasure. Is there a reason for this? Is Altdorf better than Castle Drakenhof? The gold mine at Castle Drak is a good source of income ... None of the Vampire Factions in that corner survive.

[Humble]

It's mostly vampire's army are bad, and vampire autobatte bad, Castle Drakenhof is more better money maker than Altdorf,

Reason auto battle is bad when come to a.i vs a.i is vampire do not had any range, along with AP arrow stuff, that's what auto flavor, it's full of melee, auto do not flavor that.
vampire is little better at magic, kind of, but Auto don't look into magic.

And Vampire don't get lot of friendly faction as well.

[Saxif]

Hmm. I thought it was because of the fact that they are hated by everyone around them. However, I had not thought that they would have unfavourable auto-resolves. I am currently playing as the Barrow Legion and I guess my auto resolves often suck, then I am spamming skeletons with a few killer units. I'm on my way to Varghulfs though so I can really kill some stuff.

[Humble]

Higher tier do help, but still other faction is way better because auto flavor range with ap, mostly. In order a.i to win with those skeletons only army, they need 3 or 4 stack to beat one stack. Rare a.i do move with 3 to 4 stack, it's mostly happen way late game like 100 to 200 turn at least. Isabella with vampire hero is help, but for normal army, I guess full blood knight or Terrorgheist would help but problem it's just too much cost, not even 4 or 5 region will cover that cost, in early of game that is.

[Mr Robert House]

The vampires have a bunch of melee trash, and strong magic, auto resolve doesn’t understand the killing power of magic, it just sees a bunch of melee infantry that would get slaughtered by guns, rocket batteries etc.

Their garrisons are also some of the worst in the game.

Idk how much the economy actually matters for the ai, 1 minor settlement can support 3 stacks at times.

[Saxif]

Right? I am on V Hard and I have seen small settlements that support about 25 units for the AI, it is crazy! Then, even AI with just one city have decent armies and are quickly able to upgrade that city and max it out. I know they get bonus's but, seriously?

[fmalfeas]

The biggest issue I find is that other than the lords themselves, the counts can't recruit the units that get good AR favor until T5. Hexwraiths get good favor. Blood Knights. Terrorgheist. Vampire Heroes. Banshee heroes. Vampire Lords. To get enough Sylvanian Marksmen and Gunners would require getting all 3 Von Carstein bloodline lords leveled up, which isn't something that can be done fast even by the AI.

And due to their fire weakness, the moment they run into Knights of the Blazing Sun and the two dwarf RoR that do fire damage (a warrior and slayer unit), their AR results go WAY down. Bright Wizards don't help them either. And Rocket Batteries and Luminarks seal the deal.

[JODEGAFUN]

Originally posted by Saxif:

Right? I am on V Hard and I have seen small settlements that support about 25 units for the AI, it is crazy! Then, even AI with just one city have decent armies and are quickly able to upgrade that city and max it out. I know they get bonus's but, seriously?

Even on normal they support 20 units, and if they are skaven with slaves you see 4 full stacks of them.

[tomasstigjensen]

Vampire count dont have the units and early economy to really be a threat..
They rely on thier leaders and magic, magic dont work in Auto, and leaders can only do so much..
Would they like a player spam skeleton only armies they would overrun everyone for sure..
and yes have a more fair auto resolve..

[Aleera]

Ehhh. My campaigns always have vampires defeating the empire. Only when I slap the vampire armies down does the Empire recover.

[Mr Robert House]

honestly idk if they would win if they spammed skeletons. You can rarely win autoresolves with that, certainly not against mid tier empire stacks, and the ai doesn’t need to worry about upkeep too much anyway, it’s more about how fast they can recruit.

[Aleera]

Originally posted by Mr Robert House:

honestly idk if they would win if they spammed skeletons. You can rarely win autoresolves with that, certainly not against mid tier empire stacks, and the ai doesn’t need to worry about upkeep too much anyway, it’s more about how fast they can recruit.

As I've stated, in my campaigns Sylvania almost always seems to rush Black knights and roll over the Empire, Zhufbar. They rarely have tons of skeletons.

But everyone has other things happen in their campaigns. Confirmation bias and all that.

[Un Pingachu Warhammero]

In my campaigns they tend to expand quite a bit and become a big threat to the Empire, specially the Von Carsteins. Don't know of it has to do with the difficulty though, I never play above Hard.

[tomasstigjensen]

Originally posted by Mr Robert House:

honestly idk if they would win if they spammed skeletons. You can rarely win autoresolves with that, certainly not against mid tier empire stacks, and the ai doesn’t need to worry about upkeep too much anyway, it’s more about how fast they can recruit.

Well since they can have a fulls stack for about 700 dark magic then, they can indeed field 4 vs 1 in every battle..

[Mr Robert House]

Originally posted by tomasstigjensen:

Originally posted by Mr Robert House:

honestly idk if they would win if they spammed skeletons. You can rarely win autoresolves with that, certainly not against mid tier empire stacks, and the ai doesn’t need to worry about upkeep too much anyway, it’s more about how fast they can recruit.

Well since they can have a fulls stack for about 700 dark magic then, they can indeed field 4 vs 1 in every battle..

but they can only recruit so quickly, the ai doesn’t tend to move about with 4 stacks together within reinforce range so they will lose armies of trash very quickly.

[tomasstigjensen]

Yes thats my point, they dont play like a player, they would move around with 1 stack only, and not use necromancer (WoD) and area regen skill, ect. ect.