Total War: WARHAMMER II

Total War: WARHAMMER II

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GUTS-CHAN Jan 26, 2021 @ 8:01pm
Hello, who is best Empire halberdier vs spearman?
early-mid gaame? should i just go straight to halberds
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Humble Jan 26, 2021 @ 8:07pm 
Spearman petty good for vs range while handle anti' large that are not armored, but halberdier are good vs only large armored, but they more die to range than spearman. I just mix those, mostly more spearman with some halberdier on rear of spearman, but real power is range and artillery, use that.
SirSanjiSlacks Jan 26, 2021 @ 8:14pm 
Who are you fighting?

Spearmen with shields tend to be better. Their role is holding the line against infantry and some large units or calvary. They aren't meant as the role for damage dealing.

You should be focusing on artillery and ranged units (at least non-SFO)
Daliena Jan 26, 2021 @ 8:21pm 
If you aren't expecting heavy ranged firepower (not just some scattered skirmishers) to be up against you, my vote is for halberds.

Both have the same melee defense, but halberds have more melee attack, and crucially, are far better against armor. A lot of cavalry and monsters have a good bit of armor on them, and spears will do little more than tickle them. Plus, if there's no cavalry or monsters in the enemy army (or they've been killed and are no longer an issue) you can just send the halberds into the fray to help against the enemy's infantry and they'll still do reasonable work.
Tricks Jan 26, 2021 @ 8:27pm 
Yeah I would agree on halberds if the enemy is not heavy range. They might not get a lot of kills but they can deal some damage while holding their own, which is nice. Even if most of your damage is going to be your artillery and missile infantry it's handy to have AP anti-large infantry who can chip away at tougher units who are trying to break through the line.

Funny enough as someone who doesn't play Empire often I learned the hard way playing as Throgg that halberds are actually a threat. With an army of trolls I can pretty much roll over spearmen but halberds can be a problem if monstrous infantry gets stuck in them.
Last edited by Tricks; Jan 26, 2021 @ 8:29pm
dollars202 Jan 26, 2021 @ 9:53pm 
Halberds are great once you get the physical resistance on them at gold experience. use them with greatswords and have fun against any type of melee, use them with some handgunners and arty for maximum effect.
Reaper [S.T.I.M.] Jan 27, 2021 @ 2:44am 
Halberdiers are way better against all types of melee units but can't tolerate ranged fire, while shielded Spearmen will hold okay even when getting shot. Basically, make the decision based on what you tend to face the most.

I should also mention that the Elector Count variant of shielded Spearmen is quite a lot better than the base one.
lPaladinl Jan 27, 2021 @ 3:04am 
The difference is in shields. Halberdiers struggle more against range units, otherwise they're better all around.

Honestly you should be tying up enemy ranged units regardless and not let them eat arrows all day, but they're likely to take more damage on approach even when doing that.
Koveras Jan 27, 2021 @ 3:58am 
In summation: spearmen (with shields) are better en mass against enemies that tend to field a lot of missile units. Halberds are anti-large and armor piercing, and tend to be a lot more useful against armoured, monsterous, and monsters than spearmen. You'll definitely want halberds against Chaos. You can bring both. I usually bring at least two halberds with me to protect my army's flanks until I can recruit demigryph knights with halberds.
JODEGAFUN Jan 27, 2021 @ 4:05am 
Originally posted by SirSanjiSlacks#1776:
Who are you fighting?

Spearmen with shields tend to be better. Their role is holding the line against infantry and some large units or calvary. They aren't meant as the role for damage dealing.

You should be focusing on artillery and ranged units (at least non-SFO)
They do not only perform most time better (exept aiganst high armor targets). they are also a lot cheaper and easier to recruit and maintain.
If you want to sit in the corner of the map with artillery, go spears.

If you want to fight, go halbs.
dollars202 Jan 27, 2021 @ 4:13am 
So your answer is it depends on what style of play you like. that's the best thing about the empire, it's well rounded so you can choose one that fits you. You won't be the best at anything, but you can hold your own against anyone with your army as your glaring weaknesses aren't there like other armies.
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