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Rys May 27, 2021 @ 4:36am
Dark Elves/Malekith Army Composition (SFO2)
Can someone please recommend a good army composition for Malekith when playing with SFO late game? Im being stomped by Chaos.
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𝒦ℒℬ (Banned) May 27, 2021 @ 5:10am 
a bunch of AP or AL cause if SFO hasn't changed army compositions then you can expect heavy armored infantry with the possibility of many chariots as well, worst case scenario is shaggoths which obviously are beastly and you'd need like two black guards at least for one of them maybe backed up by a hero as well, so it just depends, theres no blanket composition that you can just copy paste and it'll be alright.

basically, AP is always good, take AP pretty much always against chaos and AL.

the rest is whatever
Rys May 27, 2021 @ 6:16am 
Should I use multiple black guards in one army or just one or two units for support? With bleakswords and dreadspears as base?
𝒦ℒℬ (Banned) May 27, 2021 @ 6:52am 
depends where you are man, its really hard to say.

if its early game you shouldnt have black guard already it takes a while to get that growth with malekith, if you are in late game you shouldnt have any bleakswords cause they'll lose all the time. any elite infantry will beat them, especially with the threat of mazda, high elves.. etc.
𝒦ℒℬ (Banned) May 27, 2021 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by Hawky:
Should I use multiple black guards in one army or just one or two units for support? With bleakswords and dreadspears as base?


to answer your question directly, remove as many bleakswords as possible and replace with something with more function or damage, executioners, maybe shades with greatswords.
Cosmic Cat May 27, 2021 @ 10:49am 
The Empire has the same thing against the chaos invasions from what I've noticed!

I learned to spam halberdiers as a line to hold them, while elites (greatswords and others) do the actual killing. And lots of handgunners & Helguns/Great cannons! You should upgrade them with the "Anti-Large" upgrade too!

Those older units that worked great against other races (basic archers, crossbows, swords/spears, mortars, the "missile launcher"etc) barely do anything against Chaos. I had to learn it the hard way :sadelf:
fmalfeas May 27, 2021 @ 11:02am 
In my experience, a tactic from vanilla still helps. Get a Black Ark ASAP. Park it in Naggarond or Hag Graef permanently to act as a garrison booster and discount storage and recruitment for expensive, slow recruiting troops.

Have it stock up Shades and Kharibdis. kharibdis are excellent anti-large, and tanky enough to buy time for the shades to fire.

You'll likely have to deploy it beyond the walls, so in preparation for the inevitable invasion, train up a Supreme Sorceress of Fire, Shadow, or Dark. When the invasion is coming, move the army to her, and get her in position to intercept. Fire and Shadow excel in cleaning out Chosen and Knights that have engaged your Kharybdis, and Dark can soften them up with bladewind, but excels at wearing down the lords, heroes, shaggoths, etc, with soul stealers.

Since SFO malekith makes Black Guard unbreakable, a few of them are ideal with a Dark sorc, since Soul Stealer won't tear into them like a Fire Storm or Pit of Shades would. So they can pin down the single entities for you to magically hammer (and for the shades to shoot to pieces.

Obviously, you can increase effectiveness with things like Hydrablood masters thrown in, or use a confederated Malus to wreck them.
𝒦ℒℬ (Banned) May 27, 2021 @ 11:27am 
unbreakable black guard... woo..
𝒦ℒℬ (Banned) May 27, 2021 @ 11:31am 
p.s black arks unless they were changed with sfo don't really.. serve that much purpose unless near ports or water.
fmalfeas May 27, 2021 @ 12:43pm 
Originally posted by 𝓚ℒ𝔅.:
p.s black arks unless they were changed with sfo don't really.. serve that much purpose unless near ports or water.

And Nagarrond and Hag Graef, where the chaos Invasion hits early, are both ports. And by using an ark to produce troops, you can use the build slots for other things, like stuff to help you afford more troops.
Rys May 28, 2021 @ 4:45am 
I have found that beasts work great. And if I can buff them with beastmasters, chaos melts like butter.
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