Total war games throttling GPU.

[sirjd1]

How all of a sudden the whole Total War franchise seems to throttle my GPU fans really bad? Fans getting to 3000+ rpm just to keep the gpu from frying! I can play other intensive graphical games yet they don't 'spin up' my fans like total war games. This never used to happen. I have taken pc apart (cleaned), given more airflow, changed hard-drive where the game resided to a brand new hard-drive for faster access times etc.

[SubsidedLemon]

So temperatures tend to go up aswell I assume? What are your specs? And could you share some benchmark results here? (game has a tool for it). Preferrably including temps at the start/during/end.

[Eldi]

What GPU?

It's basically using as much as it can so it will ramp up.
If you lower your settings and thus lower the GPU utilisation, it would lower the temps and so the fan rpm.

What he said ^

[sirjd1]

Eldi I had everything on Ultra. This wasn't a problem before. I lowered it all though, the same day as i took apart my pc. I took off ssao, all reflections etc. Took off unlimited GPU memory. Lowered it all. replayed Warhammer 2 and Empire TW. Both sent my graphics card into extreme heat and fan speed. My pc is a i7 3770, 16 GB ram, with a Nvidia Geforce 1060 6GB video card. I checked the fan speeds and yes it was taking the video card up to 90C. Checked via CPUID Hardware monitor.

[Eldi]

Put the beta branch on and run the previous version or are you saying in general 'all of a sudden'?

When you say never use to, when are you talking about? Days/Months/Years?

Tbh a 1060 on ultra.... I'm not surprised your hitting 100% GPU.
If your saying empire is doing it too, it's not been updated for a while has it?

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von sirjd1:

Eldi I had everything on Ultra. This wasn't a problem before. I lowered it all though, the same day as i took apart my pc. I took off ssao, all reflections etc. Took off unlimited GPU memory. Lowered it all. replayed Warhammer 2 and Empire TW. Both sent my graphics card into extreme heat and fan speed. My pc is a i7 3770, 16 GB ram, with a Nvidia Geforce 1060 6GB video card. I checked the fan speeds and yes it was taking the video card up to 90C. Checked via CPUID Hardware monitor.

Ambient temp might be higher than normal. Here in the UK we are having a bit of a heat wave and I can hear my CPU and GPU fans ramping up to higher speeds than I've heard them go before. Playing the game in closed room with little air flow adds to the issue as your just moving around the same temp air and the whole PC become warmer and harder to cool down. Try opening at least 2 windows and setting up a fan so the room air is being pushed toward one of them. Ideally a couple of windows downstairs as well as upstairs is best as it cause the hotter air to leave out the upstairs and cooler air coming in the lower.
If that does not work and you have spare money buy an air conditioning unit. They are about £380 or so but you can get ones on wheels that don;t need installation, you just hang a pipe out the window when you want to use it. Does not take long to chill the whole room

[sirjd1]

airflow before game start, through chassis is 43C max. 40C min. 4 Hard drives, lowest SSD, 40C highest 43C a 2TB, WD hard drive. GPU 50C, Hotspot 58C, 0% fan speeds on both fans. (They only kick in if the GPU is extremely hot), CPU core temps are between 44C and 50C. Granted it is also very hot in my house with the weather at the moment but as i explained it never use to happen on TW games. GPU after playing Warhammer 2 78C running, 91C max. 1748rpm fan speeds on GPU max 3107rpm.

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why is there such an intense load on ur rig?

are u playing in higher resolution than you should?

[sirjd1]

airflow before game start, through chassis is 43C max. 40C min. 4 Hard drives, lowest SSD, 40C highest 43C a 2TB, WD hard drive. GPU 50C, Hotspot 58C, 0% fan speeds on both fans. (They only kick in if the GPU is extremely hot), CPU core temps are between 44C and 50C. Granted it is also very hot in my house with the weather at the moment but as i explained it never use to happen on TW games. GPU after playing Warhammer 2 78C running, 91C max. 1748rpm fan speeds on GPU max 3107rpm. hard drives and cpu heat stayed at the percentages i stated before. Just rocks my GPU. This has been a problem only recently noticed it this week. It may be because of the ambient temperature in the room but i have all windows open and 18" fan on me. My only grouch with that is this doesnt happen on Cities skylines or warframe or northgard.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von sirjd1:

airflow before game start, through chassis is 43C max. 40C min. 4 Hard drives, lowest SSD, 40C highest 43C a 2TB, WD hard drive. GPU 50C, Hotspot 58C, 0% fan speeds on both fans. (They only kick in if the GPU is extremely hot), CPU core temps are between 44C and 50C. Granted it is also very hot in my house with the weather at the moment but as i explained it never use to happen on TW games. GPU after playing Warhammer 2 78C running, 91C max. 1748rpm fan speeds on GPU max 3107rpm. hard drives and cpu heat stayed at the percentages i stated before. Just rocks my GPU. This has been a problem only recently noticed it this week. It may be because of the ambient temperature in the room but i have all windows open and 18" fan on me. My only grouch with that is this doesnt happen on Cities skylines or warframe or northgard.

ok?

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are you playing in higher resolution than you should I asked.

[sirjd1]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von 𝓚ℒ𝔅.:

why is there such an intense load on ur rig?

are u playing in higher resolution than you should?

This may be the problem. I have recently gone to my monitors 1920x1080 native screen size i was until recently using a max of 1680x1050. Would that be such a problem for the game/my pc?

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von sirjd1:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von 𝓚ℒ𝔅.:

why is there such an intense load on ur rig?

are u playing in higher resolution than you should?

This may be the problem. I have recently gone to my monitors 1920x1080 native screen size i was until recently using a max of 1680x1050. Would that be such a problem for the game/my pc?

makes sense then man, this game is more demanding than you think.

it's just hardware and resolution, might wanna reduce textures and tweak settings etc.

[pascal.difolco]

In my experience campaign map always use 100% GPU usage whatever the GPU and resolution... Given that the frame rate never hit my gsync monitors refresh rate😛
So only solution is to undervolt a bit your GPU to keep it cooler, and manage your GPU fan profile to cap them around 85%

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von sirjd1:

airflow before game start, through chassis is 43C max. 40C min. 4 Hard drives, lowest SSD, 40C highest 43C a 2TB, WD hard drive. GPU 50C, Hotspot 58C, 0% fan speeds on both fans. (They only kick in if the GPU is extremely hot), CPU core temps are between 44C and 50C. Granted it is also very hot in my house with the weather at the moment but as i explained it never use to happen on TW games. GPU after playing Warhammer 2 78C running, 91C max. 1748rpm fan speeds on GPU max 3107rpm. hard drives and cpu heat stayed at the percentages i stated before. Just rocks my GPU. This has been a problem only recently noticed it this week. It may be because of the ambient temperature in the room but i have all windows open and 18" fan on me. My only grouch with that is this doesnt happen on Cities skylines or warframe or northgard.

That ambient temp is pretty high to be honest, so no wonder the GPU is struggling to cool down. I mean I get to about 37C ambient and my CPU (R7 5800x with water AIO cooler) gets louder than I've ever heard it. And the GPU (1080Ti) fans often ramp up to about 70% for a few seconds now and again. Down at an ambient temp of about 32C and I hardly ever hear the GPU fans and the CPU fans are generally quieter and only ramp up high for a few seconds here and there.
I checked and your CPU temps are fine, it can get to 67C before it throttles.
I wonder if over time the GPU thermal paste (or pads) have degraded in some way. Like I think if (like most people) you have your GPU set up with fans facing towards bottom of case then with all this extra warmth, over time, the paste has softened and as the fans spin up to full it might create micro vibrations that has along with gravity made the paste migrate a tiny amount down so contact with the parts on the card is no longer as good as when it left the factory. Would certainly be worth looking into especially if you know in previous years you've not had such issues at the same overall temps

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what make and model of GPU is it, I'll help you see if other people have had same issue