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Airborne Seals 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 2:36
Are giants a good unit?
I've heard people saying that they're terrible, people have also said that they're great.

Wonder what y'all think.
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Zeek 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 2:39 
They're not very good imo.

They are way to slow which let's them get demolished by anything ranged.

I'll keep them for the early game if I already start with one but otherwise I never recruit them
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Ardariel 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 2:39 
Their stat does not make them good standalone unit. So they can be sed as force multiplier. Use tanky infantry with giant i a midst and iut cna be good... but... do you need it? I would say you always have better option.
Eldi 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 2:41 
Poor but love em.
Always take a token one to watch smash stuff.
bearfieldlee 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 2:46 
Yeah, they are pretty useless but they look great so I'm always tempted to get one.
The Void Boy 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 2:48 
The metric some people use for single entity units like giants is “can it be doomstacked?”

No you can’t doomstack giants. Giants are very good at tying down infantry and excellent at fighting other single entity units. Giants can be a great tool, you just need to support them. You can’t just throw a giant into combat and forget about it for the rest of the battle.
Fendelphi 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 2:50 
They are somewhat cheap for what they do, all things considered. And they do hit pretty hard. If your opponent ignores them, they will end up dealing a lot of damage. If they target them, the rest of your army gets to smash things a lot easier.

Your biggest concern is enemy missile fire, so if you intend to use them, make sure to have units that can either remove or at least distract/engage enemy archers(usually cavalry).
lumina 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 2:51 
Depends on the faction, the difficulty, and the way you are trying to use them. I've been using a couple giants early in my beastmen campaign and they are doing their job.

As for ranged picking them off... I don't think they are meant to go in first. I don't think they are great as a doom stack.
Ardariel 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 2:55 
引用自 The Void Boy
The metric some people use for single entity units like giants is “can it be doomstacked?”

No you can’t doomstack giants. Giants are very good at tying down infantry and excellent at fighting other single entity units. Giants can be a great tool, you just need to support them. You can’t just throw a giant into combat and forget about it for the rest of the battle.

While "doomstackiness" point is really on-point (sorry for repetition :)), i disagree with last part of message.

No, gian is not good in tyingdown infantry. It looses to lowes infantry. Too low melee def to surive and make him worth a slot. And no, they are not good to fight single entity units either. Slow speed and mass (for unit of this size) does not make em good, also slowish attack and already mentioned low MD works against him.

However you`re absolutely right, that they can be good if you support them. Cover their weak sides (that are plenty, unfortunately, but it is managable) and they can serve you good.
cary2010haha 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 3:13 
giant is very few unit can 1on 1 take down ironhide in MP
Xaphnir 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 3:34 
Slow, vulnerable pincushion

And in practice, they're not anywhere near good enough at killing infantry (what they're supposed to do) once they get in melee to compensate for their weaknesses.

Unless doing it for the memes, I'd only ever use them as Beastmen, because one of them is still better than a unit of ungor spearmen/raiders or Chaos warhounds.
Andrewbh2003 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 3:49 
there relatively cheap compared to equivalents

still one of the worst SEM in the game though
Archaon The Never-Chosen 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 3:55 
there are still all sorts of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ for greenskins. cost more than a black ork are as slow as a black ork, are tier 4 like a black ork yet can't fight a fraction of things a black ork unit can..... at least some factions get them in t3 buildings nowadays that is more appropiate for them
General Nuclear 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 4:49 
The only good giant is in wurrzag's starting army, and it's pretty usefull for a while.
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snak 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 5:02 
I usually keep 3-4 in my army, mostly for siege battles, they are great for tanking down a settlement's gate.
Replicant Six 2021 年 8 月 4 日 下午 5:04 
Giants are definitely the worst out of all the monstrous creatures, get literally anything else as Chaos or the Orks
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