Orcs overpowered in the moment...

[[*~MAJA~*] Mandragoron]

I am playing on very difficult map + battles, + legendary chaos invasion, no mods.

I dont want to fight orcs anymore... in every campaign i am playing on the old world, every time!!! the Orcs geting crazy big, 60+ settlements etc.. the ai can not handle them... this hord mechanic is to much for the ai factions... most of the time they destroy the dwarfs first, then the east lands, vamps.. empire... southlands, bretonia... its stupid really... in every fu... game i must fight this orc ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because no one else can.. i would like to fight other factions one time.. but even then i start with bretonia it does not take long until the orcs come to me...

But only to start on the new world is also no solution... could we pls have a balance patch for this? thats just crazy... or am i soo unlucky and others have a weak orc?

[Der Kaiser]

all ai shouldn't confederate as quickly because this also happens with the empire and it used to for the dwarves

[Eldi]

Puts it on the hardest setting.
Complains it's too hard.

Turn it down a notch.

Go after them early game. (Faction dependant ofc).

If they change it people will complain its to easy.

[burningmime]

If you think they're bad wait till you meet the druuchi,

[ϺEƳEƦ]

Originally posted by Eldi:

Puts it on the hardest setting.
Complains it's too hard.

Turn it down a notch.

Go after them early game. (Faction dependant ofc).

If they change it people will complain its to easy.

Why would you do any of these things, when you could start a pointless thred complaining about how you broke the difficulty instead??......which we all know is way more effective.

[[*~MAJA~*] Mandragoron]

Originally posted by Eldi:

Puts it on the hardest setting.
Complains it's too hard.

Turn it down a notch.

Go after them early game. (Faction dependant ofc).

If they change it people will complain its to easy.

You missundstood me, i am still winning, so the difficulty setting is fine for me.
Its just anoying to always have to fight on faction, not depending which race you pick on the start.
It is more fun then in every game a other faction can become the "Big dog" i would like to see other races/factions become big... yes the druucchi are also often big, but with the legendary setting for chaos invasion, they get good debufft.. but the orcs.. its just stupid easy for them to become unstoppable, even then all neighbors are allyed against them..
Every time i need to go and fix this unbalance crap with fighting them... and i really would like to do other things one time not every campaign the same..

So as this sounds you all does not have trouble with unbalanced orcs ? one who can tell that they even lose to ai factions?

[manniepants]

Orcs can get big, and often do, but I wouldn't call it unbalanced. Like you said, you are still winning so balance is not the problem here you are just bored of fighting the same faction all the time.

I would never call any AI controlled faction "overpowered" because no matter how strong they are, the AI will be playing poorly and victory for the human is inevitable. Now in human hands i could more agree that orcs are overpowered, especially in campaign. But then, so is every faction

Theres a mod called "Unnatural Selection" that will give some factions buffs or debuffs in order to make the campaign a bit more random sounds like this is what you want

[Nikloss]

Orcs being orcs i guess they are kinda overtuned right now like HE and DE but seriously it's like threat you've got to deal with during one time of your campagine

[McMuffin]

I would love to switch with you. I always have to fight the Skaven and they are basically everywhere from the start.
Out of the last three campaigns I played, the "weakest" for the skaven was pestilence 35 settlements, mors 42, eshin 32 and moulder 12 (because I already beat them quite a bit).
You can at least fight against orcs with balanced armies. Ever tried to bring a non doomstack against ambushing late game skaven no matter which direction you go?
Quit the game for months because of this ♥♥♥♥ xD

[Invisible]

Originally posted by *~MAJA~* Mandragoron:

I am playing on very difficult map + battles, + legendary chaos invasion, no mods.

I dont want to fight orcs anymore... in every campaign i am playing on the old world, every time!!! the Orcs geting crazy big, 60+ settlements etc.. the ai can not handle them... this hord mechanic is to much for the ai factions... most of the time they destroy the dwarfs first, then the east lands, vamps.. empire... southlands, bretonia... its stupid really... in every fu... game i must fight this orc ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because no one else can.. i would like to fight other factions one time.. but even then i start with bretonia it does not take long until the orcs come to me...

But only to start on the new world is also no solution... could we pls have a balance patch for this? thats just crazy... or am i soo unlucky and others have a weak orc?

The same applies to Vampire counts. I don't want to fight them anymore. Every time the same type of attrion war, is just lame.

[JODEGAFUN]

Originally posted by burningmime:

If you think they're bad wait till you meet the druuchi,

DE ai is easy to fight as HE, ore Empire (unless you get a full stack dragons ore hydras).

[Fryskar]

Orcs can easily snowball very quickly early on.
That often assures them a good position to become a threat.

[zefyris]

They're getting a bit nerfed next patch (hitting July 14th). It was announced that waagh will trigger less often during battle due to requiring more point, and that Grom was tuned down as well.

There may be more, but that's the only info we'll get until July.

[Invisible]

Originally posted by zefyris:

They're getting a bit nerfed next patch (hitting July 14th). It was announced that waagh will trigger less often during battle due to requiring more point, and that Grom was tuned down as well.

There may be more, but that's the only info we'll get until July.

I can't find the patch notes?

[Zane87]

Originally posted by Invisible:

Originally posted by zefyris:

They're getting a bit nerfed next patch (hitting July 14th). It was announced that waagh will trigger less often during battle due to requiring more point, and that Grom was tuned down as well.

There may be more, but that's the only info we'll get until July.

I can't find the patch notes?

Iirc it was mentioned in the developers Q&A, they said they are going to nerf the GS

Here:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-warhammer-3-discord-qa-archive/

"Will there be Greenskin nerfs in the next patch?

Sean: Yes, we took a look at Grom’s power level and increased the number of Waaagh! points per use of the ability (other changes too, but these are the two big ones). "

[Eldi]

Originally posted by *~MAJA~* Mandragoron:

Originally posted by Eldi:

Puts it on the hardest setting.
Complains it's too hard.

Turn it down a notch.

Go after them early game. (Faction dependant ofc).

If they change it people will complain its to easy.

You missundstood me, i am still winning, so the difficulty setting is fine for me.
Its just anoying to always have to fight on faction, not depending which race you pick on the start.
It is more fun then in every game a other faction can become the "Big dog" i would like to see other races/factions become big... yes the druucchi are also often big, but with the legendary setting for chaos invasion, they get good debufft.. but the orcs.. its just stupid easy for them to become unstoppable, even then all neighbors are allyed against them..
Every time i need to go and fix this unbalance crap with fighting them... and i really would like to do other things one time not every campaign the same..

So as this sounds you all does not have trouble with unbalanced orcs ? one who can tell that they even lose to ai factions?

Ah ok. I get ya sorry.
Honesty not seen orcs get as big as you say but I tend to play on very hard.