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I tried mortal empires and I got it to pop on turn 7. Try letting the silver host build up for a few turns then attack them. They'll have a pretty basic army. I eliminated all their armies first instead of rushing the lord and having them crumble. Idk if that changed anything but it worked for me. You could always try that out, pretty quick to try, should only take like 20-30 minutes.
ty, at least I know it can be done.