Aren't Dark Elves as a whole just Chaos Elves?

[Milk4Khorneflakes]

As in - servants of Chaos Gods rather than a separate faction. Of course the Dark Elves themselves believe that they serve noone, as opposed to Norscans who dedicate their lives to Gods - but isn't it just Elven arrogance and egoism?

In all their major invasions aginst Elves and Lizards, they fought alongside Chaos. Malekith himself deals with Slaanesh. They don't so much want to conquer Ulthuan, as destroy the Vortex, which would, certainly, result in a planetwide invasion of daemons and Chaos corruption. I mean - the Original sundering was a failed attempt to shut down Vortex.

[Hot Zerg Love]

The dark elves worship gods. The chaos gods naturally, but heeey. That said, they're just there to be used. I feel like Morathi should maybe not start at war with Chaos, but Malekith isn't pro chaos, he just wants to be the rightful king of the elves at any cost. >>is my understanding<<

[Rack]

Morathi is Slannesh servant. Malekith fought chaos

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No they just worship the messed up Elven gods. And maybe Khorne and Slaanesh.

[Milk4Khorneflakes]

Originally posted by Rack:

Morathi is Slannesh servant. Malekith fought chaos

Malekith tries to destroy the Vortex, which would probably result in End Times if sucessful. Malekith summoned Greater Daemon of Slaanesh that led assault on Ulthuan during the original storm of Chaos. And, in general, when he leads massive invasions, he fights with chaos, not against it.

[Rack]

Originally posted by Milk4Khorneflakes:

Originally posted by Rack:

Morathi is Slannesh servant. Malekith fought chaos

Malekith tries to destroy the Vortex, which would probably result in End Times if sucessful. Malekith summoned Greater Daemon of Slaanesh that led assault on Ulthuan during the original storm of Chaos. And, in general, when he leads massive invasions, he fights with chaos, not against it.

I was meaning End times - he became king of all Elves and fought Chaos

[Darth Wadewilson]

Morathi is a servant of chaos. But Malekith doesn't worship chaos. He seeks to bend and master daemons and such and do his biddings. There is a huge difference there. And he can walk the talk too. He even summoned and bound Nkari, a keeper of secrets, no small feat. While he occassionally use morathi to manipulate norscans/chaos hordes to invade Ulthuan instead of naggaroth as whole he has banned worshipping chaos in his society.

Dark elves as a whole primarily worships the elven gods. Mainly khaine, hekarti etc. You could say the 'darker' elven gods while high elves worship the 'good' elven gods. WE worship both equally. But at the end of the day they are gods of elfs. So they are all d*cks.

Chaos and norscans are their primary enemies (other than HE ofcourse) and usually fight them all the time. But when it's time to invade high elves they usually manipulate the chaos worshippers into attacking Ulthuan.

[Darth Wadewilson]

Originally posted by Milk4Khorneflakes:

Originally posted by Rack:

Morathi is Slannesh servant. Malekith fought chaos

Malekith tries to destroy the Vortex, which would probably result in End Times if sucessful. Malekith summoned Greater Daemon of Slaanesh that led assault on Ulthuan during the original storm of Chaos. And, in general, when he leads massive invasions, he fights with chaos, not against it.

Dominating chaos is not the same as worshipping/allying with chaos. Dark elves tries to dominate every race on the planet and sees all other races as their playthings and thralls. And they make no exceptions for chaos and sees them as just another set of lower beings to be dominated.

Malekith tried to undo vortex coz be believed he could succeed in mastering all that chaos that makes up the vortex. Not to bring end times.

[lPaladinl]

Dark Elves aren't exclusively Chaos worshippers.

[Psychedelic Adventurer]

No. The general diety that the DE explicit align to is Kaine. Morathi is the original cause of the fall of the Drucharii - she actually does worship Chaos (under the guise of worshipping Kaine).

I think the contemporary lore has them bandying with Chaos, but they are most definately not on their side. Which is why they all fall as one when the hammer of Archaon comes down on the world.

[TheAlmightyProo]

So... all the above said and done;
Morathi's dabbling in chaos cultism, Malekith's willingness to do and use anything to win... Khaine, bloody blood stuff, purge nights, mass slavery and other evil stuff... etc etc.

There's a plan/agenda of sorts with an end goal of getting even/taking back what's lost, but not destroying the world or fabric of reality... at least not knowingly and lustily.
Sort of like an ordered chaos power...

I dunno but imo that's the closest to whatever stain of Malal still exists in the setting.

[Darth Wadewilson]

Originally posted by TheAlmightyProo:

There's a plan/agenda of sorts with an end goal of getting even/taking back what's lost, but not destroying the world or fabric of reality... at least not knowingly and lustily.

This fits perfectly for Lizardmen as well.