Total War: WARHAMMER II

Total War: WARHAMMER II

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Crimson Oct 20, 2020 @ 7:07pm
Objectively what is the best faction?
For both Mortal Empire campaign and Multiplayer battles.
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yuzhonglu Oct 20, 2020 @ 7:35pm 
Campaign and MP are totally different.
Dakota Oct 20, 2020 @ 7:38pm 
In multiplayer "best" is kinda hard to determine, every faction has matchups against others that it is either rather good in or rather bad in, however even in very bad matchups there's counter builds and people who main specific factions and know them well enough that it almost seems liek the matchup was a bad one in the other direction.

Some will attempt to determine it based off the number of good vs bad matchups they have, but due to it being subjective opinion at that point they openly state to take it with a grain of salt.

Campaign I don't know.
franz Oct 20, 2020 @ 7:38pm 
Grimgor is the best .
Stormsong Oct 20, 2020 @ 7:45pm 
Beastmen
TerrorBear Oct 20, 2020 @ 7:50pm 
Multiplayer has too many factors, there is no objective best. Every race has another race that counters them really well, think of it almost like a game of rock paper scissors.

In campaign there are some factions that definitely have worse or better mechanics than others but it is a largely subjective opinion as to who is the best. Right now I guess beastmen, dwarves, wood elves and chaos have maybe fallen behind the most in terms of powerful campaign mechanics. Woodelves having an amber mechanic which essentially hard caps some of their best units would be an example of this.

Skaven, High elves and dark elves probably have some of the most powerful armies and economy in the game, Lizardmen also have some of the most dangerous doomstacks and elite armies possible as well.

And Empire is probably the most popular faction people play in Mortal Empires because many people see them as the most engaging faction to play as mechanically and tactically.

Take your pick
James Howlette Oct 20, 2020 @ 7:51pm 
Originally posted by yuzhonglu:
Campaign and MP are totally different.

This.

Campaign in particular is rather hard to "objectively" state anything about as pretty much any faction can hit absolutely broken status with enough cheese.
wrought82 Oct 20, 2020 @ 10:01pm 
for campaign singleplayer easily brettonia on high difficulty due to no supply lines, they even have cheese for those who like it

multiplayer especially battles is trickier. based on unit strength and roster limitations there are factions id expect to do poorly more often than not, but no clear best
Xaphnir Oct 20, 2020 @ 10:28pm 
For campaign I'd say the strongest faction is Avelorn. 2 reasons: they start with Alarielle, one of the best LLs in the game, and (the more important reason) they get Sisters of Avelorn, arguably the most cost-efficient unit in the game, and Handmaidens at T3, as opposed to T4 for all other HE factions. And they're High Elves, who are arguably the strongest race. So, strongest faction out of strongest race.
races, that have good ranged/artillery units for chill battles like skaven and HE, you put your front line, ranged behind and watch the hellfire rain, for strategic map campaign I would say tomb kings, if you mind your own bussiness
Wyvern Oct 20, 2020 @ 11:09pm 
Campaign is whoever youre playing and you could argue for all eternity about who is best.

Mp is tougher but there are indisputably races that are better off than others. Atm greenskins and coast are widely accepted as op and top tier so to speak.
Crimson Oct 20, 2020 @ 11:12pm 
I usually play Skaven because I like them for lore reasons. I also do like the Empire and the Vampires. I was wondering who else to play. Last I played Greenskins they were underwhelming but maybe since the the Grom update they might be more fun.
Empire.
Ardariel Oct 21, 2020 @ 12:31am 
In ampaing - definetly HE as Tyrion. Due to both easy economy, strong earlygame units and easy starting position. Simply put - this LL forgives a LOT of mistakes both on campaing map and in battle and with great economy you can buildup army from big defeat very fast. And also you starting units are so good, that they would be useful even in lategame.
tomasstigjensen Oct 21, 2020 @ 12:42am 
Tomb Kings-Settra.. You can pretty much win on VH/VH and only need to actually fight a few battles yourself in the process..
Vampire Counts can have a "doomstack" by turn 9-10.. (Issabella + 8 vampire heroes.)
funkmonster7 Oct 21, 2020 @ 1:15am 
Multiplayer:

As other people said...

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Single player campaign:

Skaven. Ambush on attack is just ridiculously OP. There is no defense against that other than ambush defense and the AI usually don't bother with ambush defense stat. Only thing to look out for when playing Skaven is their lords' loyalty, same with DE but Skaven have even more fickle loyalty, at least in my experience.

Originally posted by Xaphnir:
For campaign I'd say the strongest faction is Avelorn. 2 reasons: they start with Alarielle, one of the best LLs in the game, and (the more important reason) they get Sisters of Avelorn, arguably the most cost-efficient unit in the game, and Handmaidens at T3, as opposed to T4 for all other HE factions. And they're High Elves, who are arguably the strongest race. So, strongest faction out of strongest race.

She's good, Sisters of Avelorn are totally amazing, but every HE faction can recruit those. Honestly, even if you have Handmaiden building at T3, I'm pretty sure you can't build those in minor settlements. And at the start, SoA have such high upkeep that you wouldn't get them over Archers.

Later on, you'll have T4 settlements anyway so you can field SoA easy, but it's not Alarielle-specific.

What is Alarielle-specific is her forest units, which are meh... Tree-Kins can be good, but honestly I'd just roll with Phoenix Guards, or Silverin Guards for Charge Defense Against All.

In fact, I don't know if you'd use Tree-Kins for Alarielle, her own SoA deal fire damage and that's detrimental to her own forest units.

At the moment, Greenskins are also the 'best' in campaign, but only because they're overbuffed. They went from one of the weakest races to one of the strongest. Which is sad, but it's better than a Dawi tide. Or Order tide, which still happens.
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