How does Chaos invasion work in the current version.

[Milk4Khorneflakes]

So, my first campaign after a long time, first in Mortal Empires. The Chaos just came and declared war on me as Sylvania. (Strange in itself, seing as in WH1 the Neutral factions didn't have to worry, but I guess it makes sence since the Empire is all conquered by me and Vlad to the last settlement).

How do you beat Chaos in this? (I.e. what are the triggers for the Final wave to appear, and for victory to be declared?) I saw some posts, but they all are from way back.

[Ubaldios]

Just keep killing their armies, once they are all gone the next wave will appear. Ain't played any race that comes into contact with them for a while but that always how it was before

[franz]

they dont decleare war on you , you start in war with them and their beastman horde and the 2 other ones across the sea , when they "spawn" .

as VC you need 29+ settlements to spawn chaos , then you need something like 50+ Settlements to spawn Archaon . Keeping all their 4 LL and the beastman faction in a wounded state grants you "an age of peace?" .

[Inardesco]

Once you reach a certain size, or turn number, whichever happens first, the first wave of chaos arrives.

Only 8 boring stacks easily defeated by the weakest Empire faction.
8 boring beastmen stacks easily defeated by the weakest Empire faction.
8 stacks between Ulthuan and Naggarond, again, easily defeated.
And
8 stacks between Araby and Lustria, probably the more succesful one because Lustria is always a mess of factions instead of consolidated like the rest.

These keep respawning until Archeon shows up.

Archeon shows up after you reach a certain size, or turn number, whichever happens first.

Often for me, its between t60 and 80 that the first wave shows up, depending on how much I turtle.

[Milk4Khorneflakes]

Thanks! But is it really tied to size? You, basically, can't turtle it out, and if you triggered Chaos early by reaching size (I'm on turn 40ish), you have to either expand or face a constand grind till you get to 50?

[Inardesco]

They just keep spawning until Archeon spawns. Once he spawns and you kill them, no more Chaos.

I always use Chaos to annoy the Empire with :) Then again, I use a x10 chaos mod cuz otherwise Chaos is....not very chaotic.

[Zane87]

Originally posted by Milk4Khorneflakes:

Thanks! But is it really tied to size? You, basically, can't turtle it out, and if you triggered Chaos early by reaching size (I'm on turn 40ish), you have to either expand or face a constand grind till you get to 50?

Either the amount of your and your vassals settlements (30-35 and 50-55 for midgame/lategame invasion stage) or turn number, 150 and 200 respectively for the 2 stages.

So you could wait it out, theoretically but better is to grind it out. They give good post battle loot and are not hard to kill in the end.