Total War: WARHAMMER II

Total War: WARHAMMER II

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Man Skinn Jan 2, 2021 @ 2:07am
Tyrion Campaign is ruined by Naggarond
Every single time I play Tyrion it goes the exact same. I Unite (I mean Conquer) Ulthuan. I then check the strenth ranks and Naggarond is by far the best. They have like 5 20 unit armies and I don't stand a chance against them. I don't have any mods it is just really annoying because I love playing Tyrion but can never get very far because of Naggarond, is there anything I can do?
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Ysthrall Jan 2, 2021 @ 2:14am 
If you've conquered all of Ulthuan you should be able to field 5 stacks yourself.... Then it's a fair fight.

See if you can get Alith Anar, Hexoatl and even Norsca to help. Isn't there a Tomb King starting near him? Heck, you could even fund the Skaven near there to be a thorn in Malekiths side....

You might also consider a punitive attack on Naggaroth before uniting Ulthuan, to establish a forward base, raid his provinces, and generally cause havoc.
pascal.difolco Jan 2, 2021 @ 2:20am 
Why can't you just beat them? Is that due to army composition / battles ending badly on 1v1 or 2v2 , or strategic consideration (you're outnumbered and can't compete economically?)
Garatgh Deloi Jan 2, 2021 @ 2:25am 
... wait, just 5 stacks? They tend to have 20+ late game like any of the AI factions when they become proper power houses :D
yuzhonglu Jan 2, 2021 @ 2:27am 
This is a L2P issue.
Doomier Guy Jan 2, 2021 @ 2:49am 
Well for what it's worth Malekith got rolled by 3 Skaven clans simultaneously in my current vortex campaign.
Darth Wadewilson Jan 2, 2021 @ 2:57am 
how many number of turns? If they only have 5 stacks it should be fairly easy you own all of Ulthuan. Also you should be able to afford 5+ stacks yourself. What's holding you back in regard?
VoiD Jan 2, 2021 @ 4:23am 
Maybe he's playing legendary so he can barely afford 2 or 3 armies.

If that's the case get lightning strike and start beating anything they can throw at you 1v1 with minimal damage.
AKA strong ranged armies.
Man Skinn Jan 2, 2021 @ 4:19pm 
The problem is that Naggarond destroy Hexotal and any other powerful factions apart from me. If I declare war then they send like 3 20 stack armies to just wreak havoc and start rebbellions. I then have to put all my armies into defending ultuan but they always semm to have another 20 unit army to replace the one I just beat.
Fang Jan 2, 2021 @ 4:30pm 
It's possible that OP conquers Ulthuan too slowly? AI factions bloat over time after all.
Trippy Drug Jan 2, 2021 @ 4:31pm 
3 full stacks really isn't that big of a deal. Even if they go all together instead of splitting up, if you've build up your economy properly, with a fully conquered Ulthuan you should be able to wack them no problem.

By your phrasing I get the feeling that you might need to optimise your army composition too. If three full stacks are causing you this much of a problem chances are your armies aren't well structured enough to hold their own. Also, locking yourself in a defensive position always ends up badly in this game. Instead of using up all your armies, bait them to attack one of your cities with big garrison to more easily defeat them without wasting too many non garrison troops, and immediately try to go after their own cities.

Other than that just take your time really, probably just need to spend some extra hours on the game to get the gist of it a bit better and soon enough you'll have no problem ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up 7 stacks with 2 armies and a garrisson.
Ashley Jan 2, 2021 @ 4:57pm 
You're playing high elves in probably the most OP region in the game. Nearly every resource and landmarks on basically every region there. You should be able to afford 3-4 maybe 5 completed decked out armies with the whole area built up with good ranks as well. Ambush where you can if ai is training is armies around in a group.

Focus on range as high elves outrange dark elves in pretty much nearly any and every case that I know of. They'll be real weakened before they can get into range themselves and by that time they've lost a decent amount of their power.
Last edited by Ashley; Jan 2, 2021 @ 5:00pm
yuzhonglu Jan 2, 2021 @ 5:05pm 
What's your army comp, OP?
Sn3z Jan 2, 2021 @ 5:31pm 
Keep some of your most trusted HE's alive #TeamAsur.
Matt Shield Jan 2, 2021 @ 5:51pm 
Turn the Chaos invasion up to legendary. Hard for Malekith to bother you and deal with 5 beefy Chaos stacks.
JUMP'NSHOOTMAN Jan 2, 2021 @ 11:02pm 
No one has said it yet, but Lightning Strike is pretty disgusting. Especially if your main army can keep casualties low via solid ranged output.

Not to mention that you should check on how those enemy armies are composed. Even on Legendary, AI factions have some pretty terrible army compositions, hence why the game is set to spam them so hard, one would imagine.

On my recent Legendary Skaven campaign I've had some High Elves attempt to siege a Tier III walled settlement with a Lord and roughly 10 cavalry. I couldn't just use auto battle to hand wave the fight because of how the game calculates auto battle strength. Instead had to watch all the horses get shot in cold blood first hand without getting in the gates.

Game is just kind of quirky in ways. Once you learn to take advantage of the bread and butter strats that the game kind of pushes you into by design, you'll find that your campaigns are over in roughly 100 turns. At this point you start running the score up, which is coincidentally at the same point where my personal interest wains.
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Date Posted: Jan 2, 2021 @ 2:07am
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