Total War: WARHAMMER II

Total War: WARHAMMER II

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GUTS-CHAN Dec 21, 2020 @ 8:05pm
why does caledor dislike Tyrion
they're not easy to get along with like the rest
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Gnarl Dec 21, 2020 @ 8:08pm 
The Dragon Prince line was next in line to be the Phoenix King I think. So there's probably been civil wars going back 10s of thousands of years between them and other lines.

But not totally sure.
abyssalfury Dec 21, 2020 @ 8:12pm 
From my understanding, it's a combination of history plus Caledor tend to be arrogant ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ (i.e. Imrik). And if you've got a reputation as the 'arrogant ones' among the HIGH Elves....
GUTS-CHAN Dec 21, 2020 @ 8:18pm 
is Imrik fun to play? I just won my 1st vortex campaign with tyrion the other day
All minor High Elf factions have a random chance to start with the 'wary' trait which gives negative relations to other HE. It's a balancing mechanic to stop them from confederating too fast and taking over the world. There is no actual lore reason.
GUTS-CHAN Dec 21, 2020 @ 8:40pm 
Originally posted by big stupid jellyfish:
All minor High Elf factions have a random chance to start with the 'wary' trait which gives negative relations to other HE. It's a balancing mechanic to stop them from confederating too fast and taking over the world. There is no actual lore reason.
true thats same with saphery
SomeGuy1 Dec 21, 2020 @ 10:15pm 
Originally posted by GUTS-CHAN:
is Imrik fun to play? I just won my 1st vortex campaign with tyrion the other day
yes, though both his ME and vortex starts are pretty rough. ME especially, he's surrounded by enemies.
lPaladinl Dec 21, 2020 @ 11:03pm 
Originally posted by SomeGuy1:
Originally posted by GUTS-CHAN:
is Imrik fun to play? I just won my 1st vortex campaign with tyrion the other day
yes, though both his ME and vortex starts are pretty rough. ME especially, he's surrounded by enemies.

It's also the terrain, it's hard to get around that region Imrik starts in for ME.
Craig25 Dec 22, 2020 @ 12:56am 
Originally posted by GUTS-CHAN:
is Imrik fun to play? I just won my 1st vortex campaign with tyrion the other day

YES! His Vortex campaign is very fun. He is probably my favourite LL to play. Can be slightly challenging with a lack of naturally friendly factions nearby. The tomb kings make quite reliable allies after you defeat the initial enemy. I'd be wary of the Last Defenders though. I was only playing on hard and they turned on me so often. But Imrik has the tools to beat those around him.

Mortal Empires on the other hand is one of the hardest starts around. I, like many people, thought it was the hardest start. But then I played Skrolk's campaign haha
Last edited by Craig25; Dec 22, 2020 @ 12:59am
HelgitheLean Dec 22, 2020 @ 2:29pm 
Originally posted by GUTS-CHAN:
is Imrik fun to play? I just won my 1st vortex campaign with tyrion the other day

Absolutely! His ME campaign is my #1 favourite. It really feels like a great adventure story more than any other campaign I've played. There's a couple things to watch out for and prioritize.

1. Killing Eshin should be your number 1 priority. (Upgrade the darkhold and get tier 3 dragon princes to just erase stacks of Skaven.)

2. Confederate Caledor and just do enough to keep your head above water. I used intrigue to get Tyrion into a war with Morathi to take her focus off of me, and my nobles in Caledor to gain diplomatic standing and confederate Alarielle and Teclis later.

3. Taking the Wolf Lands and establishing contact with the Dwarfs should come 2nd (get some trade, and an ally for when (not if) Grimgor tries to take over the badlands and world's edge mountains.

For Imrik his campaign feels like it's the story of him getting the great dragons and blazing a path back to Ulthuan before the Dark Elves and Chaos overrun Ulthuan. Super fun feeling like it was a race against time to fight my way back to Ulthuan to confederate Tyrion and Eltharion for a showdown with Malekith.
Originally posted by Gnarl:
The Dragon Prince line was next in line to be the Phoenix King I think. So there's probably been civil wars going back 10s of thousands of years between them and other lines.

But not totally sure.

then wtf does he call himself the dragon prince if he wants to be the phoenix king, that makes literally zero sense.
lumina Dec 22, 2020 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by GUTS-CHAN:
is Imrik fun to play? I just won my 1st vortex campaign with tyrion the other day

I'm fairly new to the game, having bought it a couple months ago. I beat a Tyrion campaign and a lizardman campaign, and have a few others started.

With that said. I'm now playing an Imrik campaign as the first campaign I turned up the difficulties on. It's pretty fun due to dragons, but man is it going slow compared to other campaigns I've played. It's probably just my newbness, but I have like 3.5 provinces and am over 100 turns in. I'm fighting the greenskins now, who seem to be throwing 3-5 armies a turn at me somehow. Because I got all of his unique dragons right away, I can barely afford two armies at this point, so it's really slow going.

Imrik is by far the hardest campaign I've tried. Again though, I love playing an army with all of those unique dragons. They are just running over everything on the map.
Last edited by lumina; Dec 22, 2020 @ 2:48pm
HelgitheLean Dec 22, 2020 @ 3:16pm 
Originally posted by lumina:
I'm fairly new to the game, having bought it a couple months ago. I beat a Tyrion campaign and a lizardman campaign, and have a few others started.

With that said. I'm now playing an Imrik campaign as the first campaign I turned up the difficulties on. It's pretty fun due to dragons, but man is it going slow compared to other campaigns I've played. It's probably just my newbness, but I have like 3.5 provinces and am over 100 turns in. I'm fighting the greenskins now, who seem to be throwing 3-5 armies a turn at me somehow. Because I got all of his unique dragons right away, I can barely afford two armies at this point, so it's really slow going.

Imrik is by far the hardest campaign I've tried. Again though, I love playing an army with all of those unique dragons. They are just running over everything on the map.

I find that when it comes to dealing with the Greenskins it's all about just teaming up with the dwarfs. You need them on your side to give the Greenskins pressure from the North. Bonus points if you can get the tomb kings involved in this war. Your priority as KoC should be taking Black Crag and securing a path to the badlands. Your endgame should be Gronti Mingol to establish trade with Ulthuan and the rest of the forces of order.

If you are 100 turns in it sounds like you got held up on the stuff that probably set you back. The early game is crazy important and you should have 3 maybe 4 provinces (Wolf Lands, Plain of Bones, maybe Dragon Isles, and Caledor), a trade agreement and hopefully an alliance with the dwarfs, and maybe Teclis around turn 60.

Going for the unique dragons should not be the move right away. If anything Dragon encounters are a chance to get the influence you need to protect your holdings in Ulthuan without declaring war and fielding an extra army.

If you and Thorgrim do a good enough job smashing Grimgor he should eventually want to bargain for peace. You can call a 10 turn truce to go for a dragon quest and be back home in time to resume war on the Greenskins.
Last edited by HelgitheLean; Dec 22, 2020 @ 3:26pm
lumina Dec 22, 2020 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by HelgitheLean:
Originally posted by lumina:
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I find that when it comes to dealing with the Greenskins it's all about just teaming up with the dwarfs. You need them on your side to give the Greenskins pressure from the North. Bonus points if you can get the tomb kings involved in this war. Your priority as KoC should be taking Black Crag and securing a path to the badlands. Your endgame should be Gronti Mingol to establish trade with Ulthuan and the rest of the forces of order.

If you are 100 turns in it sounds like you got held up on the stuff that probably set you back. The early game is crazy important and you should have 3 maybe 4 provinces (Wolf Lands, Plain of Bones, maybe Dragon Isles, and Caledor), a trade agreement and hopefully an alliance with the dwarfs, and maybe Teclis around turn 60.

Going for the unique dragons should not be the move right away. If anything Dragon encounters are a chance to get the influence you need to protect your holdings in Ulthuan without declaring war and fielding an extra army.

If you and Thorgrim do a good enough job smashing Grimgor he should eventually want to bargain for peace. You can call a 10 turn truce to go for a dragon quest and be back home in time to resume war on the Greenskins.

I got held up a little by Skaven, who came at me a little harder than I thought they would. Then I think it's all about those dragons. They ate up too much money early game. I got them all as soon as I could and my progress just died.
Last edited by lumina; Dec 22, 2020 @ 3:31pm
JODEGAFUN Dec 22, 2020 @ 3:46pm 
Originally posted by big stupid jellyfish:
All minor High Elf factions have a random chance to start with the 'wary' trait which gives negative relations to other HE. It's a balancing mechanic to stop them from confederating too fast and taking over the world. There is no actual lore reason.
Not only minor, Alith Anar can have both trait (the positiv and the negativ) he may even lose the negativ during the game if you ally and help him.
HelgitheLean Dec 22, 2020 @ 3:48pm 
Originally posted by lumina:
Originally posted by HelgitheLean:

I find that when it comes to dealing with the Greenskins it's all about just teaming up with the dwarfs. You need them on your side to give the Greenskins pressure from the North. Bonus points if you can get the tomb kings involved in this war. Your priority as KoC should be taking Black Crag and securing a path to the badlands. Your endgame should be Gronti Mingol to establish trade with Ulthuan and the rest of the forces of order.

If you are 100 turns in it sounds like you got held up on the stuff that probably set you back. The early game is crazy important and you should have 3 maybe 4 provinces (Wolf Lands, Plain of Bones, maybe Dragon Isles, and Caledor), a trade agreement and hopefully an alliance with the dwarfs, and maybe Teclis around turn 60.

Going for the unique dragons should not be the move right away. If anything Dragon encounters are a chance to get the influence you need to protect your holdings in Ulthuan without declaring war and fielding an extra army.

If you and Thorgrim do a good enough job smashing Grimgor he should eventually want to bargain for peace. You can call a 10 turn truce to go for a dragon quest and be back home in time to resume war on the Greenskins.

I got held up a little by Skaven, who came at me a little harder than I thought they would. Then I think it's all about those dragons. They ate up too much money early game. I got them all as soon as I could and my progress just died.

I think the best tip for dealing with Eshin is to go straight for Flayed Rock. The Sun Dragon is a siege attacker so you can attack immediately. Ideally you should have dealt with Helheim as quickly as possible working clockwise around Grey hag Mountain back to the border of gnoblar country. You have a choice now about how you want to attack the Skaven. You can go with the dragon princes from the upgraded unique building at darkhold or with rangers. Recruiting a stack of rangers and archers will get you hunting the Skaven earlier and is cheaper but princes, spearmen, and archers will be the stronger army in the long run.

In either case you just want to launch your attack before Red Cloud is destroyed. Move Imrik to Flayed Rock before you declare war and you want to sandwich Eshin between you and the goblins. Don't worry about fighting multiple stacks rangers will slaughter stacks of skavenslaves and cycle-charging dragon princes will do the job even better. Deal with Flayed Rock and Haunted Forest immediately and haul ass to finish off the Skaven. If Skaven backtrack behind you travelling through the underway, don't be afraid to recruit a 2nd lord and some cheap soldiers for a couple turns to hold onto conquered cities while Imrik mops up enemies. Don't worry about Eshin attacking the Plain of Bones. Your garrisons are more than capable.
Last edited by HelgitheLean; Dec 22, 2020 @ 3:52pm
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