No British isles type races?.

[rudkin852]

Germans in the centre north, French to the west of them, skandi's to the north of them, Russians to the east of them, the Spanish down south.But no English, Irish or Scots oh and the Welsh, what happened to them in this game?

[Garatgh Deloi]

Closest thing to the British isles in Warhammer fantasy is most likely Albion. They have some weird druids and stuff in the lore but not a proper faction.

[an entire Roman legion]

Buckle up!

[sawdust3d]

I though Grimgor was the resident football hooligan

[sosbro]

The Empire is a combination of euro nations, such as UK and Germany.

[Leslian Lexter]

High Elves and their island represent the british, in Warhammer Lore. There is also abit of an arthurian element to Braetonnia, with their lady of the lake and all.

Braetonnia represents the french and the Empire represents the german/prussian/holy roman empire.

Its not one to one, but thats why its fantasy i guess.

[RED /(Weber)\]

Originally posted by sawdust3d:

I though Grimgor was the resident football hooligan

The entirety of the GS are.

[dt Walter Robinson]

Originally posted by Harry Gun:

High Elves and their island represent the british

No, not even close.

Originally posted by Harry Gun:

Braetonnia represents the french

First, it's Bretonnia.

Second, the Bretonnians are essentially Franco-Anglo - Norman aristocracy with lands and titles in both modern day England and France.

[ℬℓα⊂₭ ℙℜ¡ℵ₠]

Well if CA can do Norsca then they can also do Albion. In fact it would not even be that hard as a lot of it would be just modding existing models. I think balancing, making them fun and a reason to buy and play will be the main issues.

[Namhaid]

Albion is the main "equivalent" of the british isles, and more or less based on the pict era.

While it does appear in lore, there is no army book for Albion, and as far as I know, only the Truthsayers and their corrupted counterparts, the Dark Emissaries, ever made it to the TT.

Bretonnia is also meant to represent them in part as, while mainly based on medieval France, it includes many references to arthurian legend.

Originally posted by Harry Gun:

High Elves and their island represent the british, in Warhammer Lore.

How? Most people who say this seem to base it entirely on the fact that Ulthuan is an island in the middle on the ocean, but aside from being a very weak connection, it's not even true. The closest equivalent to a geographical equivalent to the UK is Albion by far, and there is no cultural similarities between the British and the High Elves at all.

Ulthuan is the "equivalent" of Atlantis, a magic mistical island in the middle of the ocean, protected by magical fogs, that would sink if magic were to disappear...

Also, Albion literally means Britain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion

[Blackbeard]

Ulthuan is a bit of a mix. In terms of Military they have a bit of Athens. In their relationship with the Druchii the High Elves also have a nice bit of the classical "Athens VS SParta" shtick. In their role as declining world power that had holdings all over the world, however, Ulthuan DOES have some influences from teh British Empire.

Basically: Albion, pre Roman Britain
Bretonnia: High Medieval France + English Lower classes
Ulthuan: Mixture of Atlantis, the British Empire and Athens

[jonoliveira12]

Magical fogs is not from Atlantis, it is from Avalon, a different island legend.

But Ulthuan is Atlantis, and the doughnut shape is a dead giveaway, since Atlantis was supposedly built on a mostly sphere-shaped island, and had 3 defensive layers, all with Walls clad with a different metal, brass, tin and orichalcum, from outer to inner wall.

Ultuan also has 3 layers, the outer one, inner one, and then the three islands in the middle (Vortex is on an island).

The inner ring of Atlantis was also the Temple of Poseidon, and the inner portion of Ulthuan consists of 3 spiritual places, with the Vortex, the Shrine of Asuryan and the Shrine of Isha (Gaen Vale).

A very easy connection. Even it's kingdoms are a reference to the Agean world and it's legends.

[Namhaid]

Originally posted by Blackbeard:

Ulthuan is a bit of a mix. In terms of Military they have a bit of Athens. In their relationship with the Druchii the High Elves also have a nice bit of the classical "Athens VS SParta" shtick. In their role as declining world power that had holdings all over the world, however, Ulthuan DOES have some influences from teh British Empire.

Basically: Albion, pre Roman Britain
Bretonnia: High Medieval France + English Lower classes
Ulthuan: Mixture of Atlantis, the British Empire and Athens

I'll buy the Ulthuan/Greeks connection, mostly because Atlantis is based on Greek mythology.

But again, whats the connection between the British and the High Elves? What cultural similarities exist? How are High Elf armies similar to historical British ones?

If the only connection is that they are both decaying empires, then the High Elves must also be based on Spain, Rome, the Ottomans, Macedonia, Japan, the Mayans, the Aztecs, the Selucids, the Islamic Caliphate, I could keep going for a while...

[JoeVonFo]

And then of course we have Dark Elves as USA and Lizardmen as South American native tribes :P

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Namhaid:

Originally posted by Blackbeard:

Ulthuan is a bit of a mix. In terms of Military they have a bit of Athens. In their relationship with the Druchii the High Elves also have a nice bit of the classical "Athens VS SParta" shtick. In their role as declining world power that had holdings all over the world, however, Ulthuan DOES have some influences from teh British Empire.

Basically: Albion, pre Roman Britain
Bretonnia: High Medieval France + English Lower classes
Ulthuan: Mixture of Atlantis, the British Empire and Athens

I'll buy the Ulthuan/Greeks connection, mostly because Atlantis is based on Greek mythology.

But again, whats the connection between the British and the High Elves? What cultural similarities exist? How are High Elf armies similar to historical British ones?

If the only connection is that they are both decaying empires, then the High Elves must also be based on Spain, Rome, the Ottomans, Macedonia, Japan, the Mayans, the Aztecs, the Selucids, the Islamic Caliphate, I could keep going for a while...

There is a connection with another island myth from the British Islands: Avalon, island kingdom of the Fey-folk, perpetually shrouded in mist unless they allow you inside.

There is also a tenuous connection to the British Empire, and british imperial arrogance, and those are on purpose.

[Muerte]

Didn't you see the Goblins?